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Old March 27th, 2004, 08:40 AM
Joyce
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Default A really idiotic caloric burn rate question

I somehow managed to hit a button while playing around and it totally reset
everything. My metabollic rate dropped immediately from 2100 to 1400 ... even put
me at 500 for the early days (which I know isn't even possible). LOL! And eating
at or near that 1400 calories this week, found my weight to be up 2 pounds today -
go figure. It's all a complete mystery to me. g

Hope you are feeling better soon. Colds are nasty and seem to hang on forever.

Joyce

On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 13:35:55 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I am eating what it suggests in calories, and up a bit this week, but I have
a really rotten cold and have actually not exercised for 4 out of the last 5
days. So not me. But I am really sick here. And Hungry. Go figure. I am
still okay (within two pounds of goal) though.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Today was really interesting. I ate an incredible amount of calories -

based on
me totally guessing on quantities and using generic food choices available

in the
data base as opposed to actual more accurate counts as I am used to. Yet

it was
the lowest NQ rating I have ever had at the end of the day (think I ended

at a B).
Obviously, the foods I ate were not of much nutritional value. G It

does open
your eyes quite a bit.

Interesting point #2: Last week I figured I could use the average for my

official
weigh in, since I did have readings for every day. My average for the

week was
exactly to the ounce what the scale said on Friday. Ok, figured it was

just a
total fluke. Today was official weigh-in day again. I hit the scale

bright and
early, disappointed a teeny bit as the weight has gone up the past few

days ...
but average for the week again was exactly to the ounce what the scale

told me
this morning ... 130.9. Go figure! Probably a fluke again, but it is

pretty neat
to see it turn out this way two weeks in a row. G

This last week I have gone back and entered my points into the note

section, is
pretty interesting also. The points are pretty close to what I *thought*

I should
be at - all that good fiber and 0 point veggies/salads tend to balance

things out
calorie wise.

Joyce

On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:18:34 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

I have used it for years, but go months sometimes without logging, then I
erase myself and start over in there. I am being reinspired by it now

too.
I just upgraded it this year to the newest version and am loving it.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ahhh, don't know why but I had the impression you had been logging with
diet power
all the way through. I agree, it really is fun - but also has opened

my
eyes a
little more. I find I am eating better, not sure why. Maybe because I

am
logging
everything, so am thinking more about my choices? You know, do I

REALLY
want that
one teeny finger cookie that accounts for a quarter of a point which I
usually
don't log ... but have logged it in dietpower. g I also had felt

that
for the
past 3 weeks I had really been struggling. Nothing major, but my

weight
has been
swinging greatly. For some reason (probably the choices I'm making,

could
also be
TOM finally gave way) looking at the calories has helped a lot the past

2
weeks,
and the weight has been steadily declining ... back to 130 today ...
finally. Now
what I find really interesting, and maybe things are starting to

balance
out and
will continue to do so, is that my budgeted calories totalled 26726

since
I've
started dietpower ... and I've eaten 26185 ... which is pretty dang

close.
Granted, I've logged 3317 exercise calories, but heaven only knows if
those are
logged correctly. LOL! Regardless, something appears to be correct if

the
weight
has come back down. I still have a tough time believing that my

metabolic
rate is
2200 and I'm not willing to eat that high yet. I'm giving it more time

to
continue adjusting.

And that NQ is really neat! What is funny is if you log your daily
vitamin in ...
you go right up to *A* status. G It is motivating though, learning

what
the
body needs, what you are getting too much of, etc. It really does have

me
rethinking many of my food choices.

Joyce


On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 20:37:19 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I had stopped logging at diet power and was just writing a WW journal.

I
started again with diet power this last week for fun, and it is

improving
the general quality of my diet in a big way. For some reason seeing

that
NQ
is very motivating to me.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
My email went through, and I did receive the standard automated

*you'll
hear from
us within 24 hours* reply. I probably sent it to the wrong place
though -
went
for the support option. Tech support is probably shaking their

heads
and
whooping
it up right about now.

I'm with you, will remain anal and diligent. I was happily

surprised
to
see my
weight creeping down again this week .. all the way right back to

130
this
morning. Journaling, weighing, whatever ... it all seems to work
correctly if I
do the work. When I get lazy, I have problems.

Joyce

On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 13:21:40 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

I am getting an error message from my e mail to them, I probably

sent
it
to
the wrong addy or something. I don't give a hoot if I am anal

about
this, I
am NOT going back up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Did you get any kind of answer from them? I emailed them this
evening
(just a few
minutes ago), had some other questions regarding the exercise log
...
such
as how
the heck do I know what incline on the treadmill is equivalent to

a
light,
moderate or steep hill grade. I'm sure they're gonna shake their
heads
and figure
I'm over complicating things ... but I wanna know, and want to

have
a
better idea
of what I am doing! I tried using the polar monitor while on the
treadmill, so
far it hasn't worked at all. At the end of 40 minutes it tells

me
I've
burned a
whopping total of 9 or 15 calories. I'm reasonably sure it has
something
to do
with the possibility of interference from the treadmill monitors,
but
no
way I can
turn them off. I might try again this week, am thinking about
hanging
the
watch
around my neck (on a string) instead of on my wrist - might get

it a
bit
further
from the treadmill's electronic devices. If it still doesn't

work,
then I
guess
I'm back to punting.

I'm also a stickler on the food entires, had added most of my own

to
even
the ww
website - as I found many of theirs to not be accurate. Like

you, I
either put
the calories, or weight into the description to make it easy for

me
to
know which
item I actually want to log. We might be overly anal on much of
this,
but
I
figure I've worked too dang hard to get here - I want to make

sure I
get
everything right to give me a better chance of staying here.

Joyce

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 13:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne"


wrote:

I e mailed em already. I use my polar monitor also when I have

a
doubt
about what they are getting, and then I Add an exercise, and in

the
description I put "walk/jog, 250 calories" so I know what I am
dealing
with
then I add enough details in the actual entry to be sure I have

the
time,
etc. the same. I do a lot of that for food additions too. I

found
that
there are slight differences for instance in the counts on soy
cheeses,
so I
put the calories into the Name of the food. Ex Yves cheese 30,

or
Yves
cheese 35. Then it is easy for me to get it right. Like you

say..
Anal.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ahhhh, so this is a real problem then? I looked in the help
section,
then
got
sidetracked ... never got as far as the FAQ's. Thanks for
checking
for
me!

What is really odd, is that when I enter the exercise as
treadmill,
it
does
compute the calories burned to within just a few of what the
treadmill
says I have
burned - so I just made the assumption that it was correct.

AND
wierder
... in
the dietpower program I can enter walking on an incline (hill)
for
3.5MPH
but it
doesn't give me that option for 4MPH ... which probably would
compute
to
the same
caloric expenditure as what I am logging as treadmill walking.
And
I
can't get a
good reading on the polar monitor to verify anything. The

damn
thing
seems to get
interference from the monitors on the treadmill, which can't

be
turned
off. sigh
Oh well, I guess even if things are logged wrong, it still

will
balance
out
eventually because the weight and food are correct (although I
did
have
to
somewhat guess at tonites dinner buffet).

I went back and changed all those exercise logs, will have to

now
have
to
decide
how I want to log things ... as a flat 4MPH walk, or as a mild
hill
at
3.5
(even
though I walk that constant incline at 4MPH). Like I said, it
should
balance out.
Maybe I should email them and ask that when they fix it to

also
factor
in
the
incline for treadmills? Or hill walking at a faster pace?

G
I
bet
anal people
like me drive then nuts!

Joyce

On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 01:37:50 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

I went into the help screens and read the FAQ and lo and

behold
they
have
a
note that it is Wrong, and to log it as regular walking until
they
get
it
fixed....

"Lesanne" wrote in message
...
ooo ooo ooo gotta go look at diet power and see....
I think there is a mistake in the program there.
Gonna send em mail about it from here.... that is too

strange

"Joyce" wrote in message
news Ok, one for you gurus ... if there even is an

explanation.
And
if
there
is,
please give it to me in terms I can understand. g

I'm using the diet program Lesanne has spoken about and
noticed
what
I
think is a
*quirk* ... maybe it is, maybe it isn't, I don't have a
clue.
But
since
this is
automatically calculated based on my weight and height

along
with
the
info
I add
(miles/time), I'm making an assumption that there must be
some
kind
of a
difference in these activities. So here goes ... I work

out
on
the
treadmill,
which is a speed factored activity (so this program tells
me).
This
program says
that someone my weight and height will burn 0.0874
calories/minute
if
walking at
roughly 4MPH. BUT ... if going for a non speed factored
brisk
walk
at
4MPH (15
miles per minute) it says I will burn at a rate of
0.03174/minute.
Can
anyone
explain to me why the difference rate of caloric

expenditure
between
the
two
activities? Or is it solely because on a treadmill it is

a
constant,
automated
speed?

I am sooooooooooo confused! g

Joyce