"Roger Zoul" wrote in message
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Slider wrote:
:: I've been LCing for over a year and lost 50lbs. About 5-6 weeks ago,
:: I started riding an Aerodyne bike (stationary, 25 mins at 65RPM,
:: about 350 cal.) and doing upper body free weights with a small
:: Bodysmith setup I have. I waited until now to start weights because
:: I knew I would gain weight...it's a psychological thing even though
:: I know it's not fat, it's still weight, right?

No.....and weight gain is not a given, either.

::
:: My goal is to lose a total of 65lbs, but since I've been doing the
:: cardio and weights, my weight has crept up about 10lbs. I know that
:: is to be expected with the weight lifting due to water retention by
:: the muscles (the glycogen is to blame there, I believe),

How is glycogen to blame if you're LCing? There could be some LBM added
that is not muscle but is also not fat. That is typically a good thing.

It was my understanding that when LCing, muscles retain glycogen and for
each molecule of glycogen, there are 5 molecules of water attached to it.
Thus the gain of "water weight".

but can the
:: rest due to increased lean muscle mass? I suppose if the water
:: accounted for 4-5 lbs, then the rest *could* be additional muscle
:: weight.

It's hard to say...you likely added some muscle and other LBM, but with
that
amount of cardio and only 6 weeks I doubt you've gained 5 to 6 lbs of
muscle.

LBM? Lean Body Mass?

My goal with the weights is to simply TONE, not add bulk.
:: ****, I was *bulky* for 20 years. Lean is what I'm aiming for.

Well, lean does not imply bulky...and having tone doesn't imply bulk. You
don't state what you weigh, so we can't know what this 10 lbs really
means...if you weigh 350 then this might be a drop in the bucket, but if
you
weigh 120 then you might want to consider some other tactics.

Good point. I was 190 before starting weights and am now 200. I'd like to be
about 180. I'm 5'10' with a large frame.

::
:: Anyhow....to my question: For the last 4 months prior to reaching
:: 50lbs, I basically plateaued and despite waiting for 2 months and
:: trying induction again, I was not able to "re-start" my weight loss.

Induction does not automatically generate weight loss. You need to pay
attention to how much you eat vs how much your burn. Many LCers find that
as they lose more and more weight they have to pay attention to how much
they eat and not just how many carbs. Welcome to success via LC dieting.
You aren't alone.

For me it generated the vast majority of my weight loss and I found it very
easy to stick to. I want to kick my body back into ketosis and "purge" any
water weight that I may have gained do to not-so-strict-LCing for the past
little while.

:: Now that I've gained a few pounds with the weight lifting, I'm
:: thinking of trying induction again (basically attempting to fool my
:: body into thinking it's gained fat, when in fact, it has not).

??? Have you done bodyfat measurements?

It's on my list. I realize it's the only true measurement of my success and
plan on visiting a gym very soon to have a benchmark established.

:: I know that LC and weight lifting, when the goal is mass, is not
:: recommended, but as long as I keep the caloric intake up, am not
:: wasted after each cycling/lifting session (weights are M,W,F and
:: bike is Mon-Sat), should I be able to achieve both stated goals of
:: fat loss via LC and cardio and muscle toning via weights?

Fat loss one way or another will lead to what you refer to as toning.
Weights will help either increase muscle mass and/or prevent loss of
muscle.
Fat loss with make whatever muslce you have look more evident enhancing
what
you refer to as tone. The combination of dieting, weight lifting, and
cardio should give you the results you seek (though not for the reasons
you
mention). You have not commented on your eating other than to mention
carbs
(induction), so that suggests to me that you might simply be eating too
much. When people begin doing more exercise it is quite common to want to
eat more. If you aren't tracking specifically, then your eating might
have
increased slowly without your noticing.

My caloric intake is approx. 1200-1500 per day, but still following LC woe.

:: I didn't include my exact weight routine, but if need be, I can post
:: it.

I don't think that is as important as how much you're eating. Of course,
only doing upper body causes me to have some concerns about your routine.
If you're large, there should be a lot of muscle mass in your legs and
butt
and you need to be lifting with them.

I have very large, muscular, well defined legs from years of hockey and
soccer. They have never been a problem and frankly, don't need work. My butt
is also not an issue (for me). I lost about 6" on my waist and considerably
reduced my "seat" size by swimming when I initially started LCing. I swam 5
days a week for about 6 months.

The upper body is more important to me because of the excess skin from the
weight loss, and while I'm 38 and realize that my skin is not as elastic as
it used to be, the decrease of fat and better defining of the muscles will
certainly improve myself esteem.

Just as a example, when I started lifting (I had already been doing
cardio),
I didn't lose for 3 months. But the reason was simply that I was eating
more food - specically nuts. Heavy exercise does that. AFter a while, I
made adjustments.

I'll tell you also that sometimes doing less exercise can help you control
appetite. Alternatively, in time, as you adapt to the exercise load, you
should be able to control your eating better. IME.

I suggest you use fitday to track your total eating for a week or two,
without trying to change how much you eat (careful: just tracking will
cause
you to be more conscious). Once you get a good notion of how much you're
eating, start dropping the amount. It's hard to give any guidelines on
how
much to drop, since you haven't given any information on who much you
weigh,
how tall you are, your frame size, whether you're a man or a woman, etc.
So
sound like a woman (no insult intended), but I might be wrong. Anywho, via
exercise and diet, you need to create a 3500 calorie deficit over a week
to
lose 1 lb. So use that in your thinking. Between 1 and 1.25 lbs a week
is
a reasonable number to shoot for, unless you weigh 350 or more, in which
case you can lose faster. I take it that you have about 25 lbs more to
lose, so don't expect fast results unless you really push hard, which is
not
recommended.

I have been using Fitday, although not a regularly as I should be to track
this. According to FitDay, I burn 2100 calories per week by cycling. 1050
calories per week by weight lifting (more if you consider the lasting
effects after lifting). If I select a sedentary lifestyle (bed-bound), which
I am not, but it's the only setting that gives reasonable figures, my week
looks like this:

Weekly Caloric burn:
Basal: 8288
Lifestyle: 2590
Activities: 3150
TOTAL: 14028

Weekly caloric intake @ 1500cal/day: 10500

Net difference: -3528

It seems I am burning the requisite number of calories to lose
weight....unless I'm calcualting it wrong or FitDay numbers are complete BS.

So, the numbers say I should be losing weight, but my scale says otherwise.
:-(