On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 10:53:58 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:
You're the one who's been doing the attacking. I merely made a post
about the wisdom of trying diet, nutrition, and lifestyle changes,
And I merely pointed out that the doctor who wrote the
article says that avoiding one stroke in 32 men over
5 years is a "slim benefit".
And it is, when compared to the many nasty side effects of the drugs,
including DEATH.
The side effects from taking these drugs can be debilitating, and can
even result in DEATH.
Capitalize it one more time to try to scare people.
Okay. Will do!
DEATH can be a side effect of taking BP meds.
But even the other side effects from taking BP meds are nothing to
sniff at, e.g., impotence, dizziness, low blood sugar, muscle cramps,
constipation, headaches, bleeding gums, etc. - for essentially the
rest of one's life.
BP medications are generally well tolerated.
No, they are not.
Another lie. Study please!
Practice what you preach, Pusherman!
But diet, nutrition and lifestyle changes are.
So someone should give them a try FIRST, then make up their mind
whether they should take potentially debilitating drugs for the rest
of their lives.
I never said otherwise, despite how much you want to
make believe that's the issue.
You push drugs, that's what you do.
You're the Pusherman, and the "pusher don't care
Ah, if you live or if you die."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMqVrUSz62o
God damn The Pusher
Gad damn The Pusher
I said God damn, God damn The Pusher man.
No one has ever said that drugs should never be taken, but that they
should only be taken as a LAST RESORT.
When you claim that avoiding one stroke in 32 men
over 5 years is a "slim benefit"
Yes, that's what I'm talking about!
I read what Dr. Briffa wrote. *And he's coming from a
very strange viewpoint, where avoiding one person
in 32 having a stroke every 5 years is a "slim benefit".
It is a "slim benefit," which is another reason why diet, nutrition
and lifestyle changes should be TRIED FIRST!
The lie repeated.
Practice what you preach, Pusherman!
Hypertension can also run in families, and may be absolutely nothing
to worry about.
I'm sure we'd all like to see the study that supports
that conclusion.
You can look it up. Well, maybe you can't, but anyone else can.
In other words, as usual, you have no supporting
data.
No, in other words, I'm not doing your work for you, and that's
because I don't like you.
As usual, no study, just more BS.
What paret of "I'm not doing your work for you" don't you understand?
If everyone in a family has elevated BP, but live
average lives, don't have strokes or heart attacks, why would you
necessarily want to lower it in the first place,
Study please to show that this pure speculation
exists. Otherwise, it's just a strawman.
You can look it up.
In other words, as usual, you have no supporting
data.
See above.
As usual, no study, just more BS.
Practice what you preach, Pusherman!
But the mere thought that you don't even know that hypertension and/or
high cholesterol can run in families tells me all that I ever needed
to know about you - i.e., you're an idiot.
Another attempt at lying and redirection. I never said
that. YOU said that hypertension and high cholesterol
that runs in some families is harmless.
I said that it *can* be harmless.
You probably should look up the term "straw man" too, because you
obviously don't know what that means.
especially after
considering that artificailly doing so may cause DEATH and other
life-long debilitating effects?
Do you realize that if you have a headache and take some
aspirin there is a risk of DEATH?
I'm not aware of it ever happening, but I suppose it's possible.
Anything is possible.
Then why aren't you running around talking about
the dangers of DEATH from aspirin?
But they do.
Who is they and what do they do?
The dangers of taking too much aspirin are widely known. Even in Rio
Linda.
Asshole.
--
Dogman
"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman