Duffy wrote:
:: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
:: ...
::: tHatDudeUK wrote:
::::: "Ignoramus3739" wrote in
::::: message
::::: ...
:::::: I have no idea... but I would be a little wary of radical diets.
::::::
:::::: How tall are you, what's your weight etc, how much are you
:::::: trying to
:::::: lose?
:::::
::::: 6' 3" (190 cm)
::::: 14 stone (89 Kg)
::::: Hoping to lose 2-3 stone (15-20 kg) [or convert fat to muscle
::::: somehow] Age 23 years
::::: No known health problems.
:::::
::::: I have (I'm guessing in comparison with the average male of my
::::: age)
::::: low muscle tone, strength and stamina (my g/f can beat me at
::::: arm-wrestling [which isn't very good, how ashamed I am :-)]).
:::::
::::: I also have a big belly I'd like to get rid of.
:::::
::::: Any further thoughts on possible diet?
:::
::: Yeah, forgot this high protein, low carb, low fat diet and just do
::: low carb.
::: Lift weights, do cardio and eat low carb. I've lost 117 lbs so
::: far, and I'm
::: very happy. Muscle, stamina, and strength have all increased,
::: while fat has
::: decreased. Tone is greatly improved.
:::
::: Doing low fat and low carb will make you miserable. It is likely
::: you won't
::: be able to stay on such a diet for very long. Be sure to eat lot
::: of high
::: fiber veggies.
:::
::: And if you don't like low carb, then do low fat. But LC is better
::: imo
::: because it usually prevents muscle loss compared to low fat.
::
:: Roger, Roger, Roger, doing low fat and low carb doesn't make me
:: miserable! I'll tell you, I get crazy when see statements like "Doing
:: low fat and low carb will make you miserable." because while the
:: statement might be true for you, it is not true for all.
::
:: Not everyone can take the high-fat regime of the Atkins diet. I
:: can't.
:: My digestion doesn't tolerate more than a taste of mayo, heavy cream,
:: butter, etc. Fat on meat makes me really sick. I've been in the ER
:: more than once because I ate too much fat. Granted, I am on the
:: extreme end of the scale. However, I know that other folks out find
:: that the high fat content of the typical Atkins diet doesn't agree
:: with them. Or they don't choose to do it. Yes I know that the results
:: about dietary fat and heart disease are inconclusive. But some people
:: believe it. And those folks still want to eat low carb.
::
:: Either way, a person can eat very happily from a reasonable low-fat,
:: low-carb diet. It takes a little more planning. It takes learning
:: about nutrional values. But it can be done. I'm living proof. And
:: now,
:: so are my husband and son!!!!!!!
::
:: Is my diet the Ornish low fat diet? Of course not. But is my diet
:: lower in fat than the typical Atkins plan. Yeppers. It
:: works-honestly.
:: And I'm not the least bit miserable. (At least not about the food
:: part
:: of my life!!!)

Okay...I can buy that....but when I did low fat many years ago, I was eating
less than 10 percent fat. Now that I'm doing low carb, I'm doing less than
10 % carbs most days.

ARe you saying that you're doing less than 10% carbs and less than 10% fat,
meaning that upwards of 80% of your calories are coming from protein? If
not, I don't call that LF and LC.

Now, I purposely limit my fat intake plenty of times, simply because lots of
high fat food have high amoutns of calories, and I limit calories to 2000
per day (there abouts and for most days during a month). So I will
frequently pick a lean meat (chicken breast) instead of fatty meat like some
cuts of beef.

Finally, notice I did say LF and LC, as did the original poster. Since those
terms weren't definited, I used the typical meaning. One can make LC into a
lower fat version that some people might eat.

::
:: Duffy
:: 182/124
:: since 12-01-01

You're not Duffy Pratt, right?