"Rudy Canoza" wrote
pearl wrote:

Meaning to do the *minimum* necessary to avoid injury or death. But the
*right* to self defense does not depend on necessity in any way. It is
how the actions undertaken are seen, not the right itself.

*DEFENSIVE* action, you stupid gash. The lion commits an *offensive*
action when it preys.

In fact predators engage in acts of aggression that are unrelated to any
immediate need to survive, male lions attack and kill hyenas simply because
they are enemies, animals kill cubs, we think because they see them as
possible future competitors. Animals are aggressive in defense of territory,
food, status, mates. None of it has any "moral" component.

You lose. You're just too stupid for this.


The lion *needs* no justification; it just preys on other animals. A
human *does* need legal justification to use violence against another
human.
What's your justification for violence against innocent non-humans?
Don't need any for that, either. "Innocent" means nothing there.

[snip bull****] You cannot justify it.

No need to justify it.