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Old January 26th, 2004, 02:38 AM
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Default Uncovering the Atkins diet secret

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 14:52:46 GMT, posted:

"Moosh" writes:
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 12:18:36 GMT,

I'm curious--when was ASDLC invaded by this crowd? I've been
reading here on-and-off for four years or more, and have never
encountered this before.

ASDLC? OK, I looked above I'm posting on smn.

Ah, gotcha. So let me rephrase the question. Is there a troll on
ASDLCarb cross-posting to ASDLCal et al, or is there a troll on one of
those other newsgroups crossposting to ASDLCarb?

No idea.
I comment on what I see.
If tracking this down fascinates you, try looking at the OP.

In (and almost any other newsgroup), I've learned to
filter any posts cross-posted to alt.atheism or; they're
always trolls. Apparently I need to kill cross-posts to ASDLCal now as

Whatever floats your boat.

In the past, it was well recognized that calories are not
irrelevant--that eating 5,000 cal/day will not result in weight

It will if you burn 5,001 cal/day.

As indicated in another post, the issue here is the definition of
"burn". If you include energy converted into unusable (or unused)
forms, then your statement is a tautology.

In what way a tautology?

My statement is a truism, perhaps?

In what way could the opposite of what I said pertain?

The only outcome of this
clarification is to rephrase the question: "Does a change in caloric
composition, all other things being equal, result in a change in
calories burned?"

Very minimally. Some foods may make the BMR rise marginally.
The general principle is that if energy IN is at all less than energy
OUT (and ALL forms of energy are accounted for) then the body will
lose tissue mass.

Since you have access to the chemical equations for fat metabolism and
for glucose metabolism, go ahead and post an answer in one specific case.

Metabolism to what? Fat or glucose may be stored or partially
interconverted, or metabolised to carbon dioxide and water. If you
mean the latter, the fat will yield approx 9 cal/gram, and glucose
approximately 4cal/g. This can be mechanical energy or heat, although
they all eventually relsove to heat