Tim Tyler wrote:
Mark D. wrote:

When a diet is described as "high in fat", it usually means the
*percentage* of fat in the diet is high.
It's the same with high protein diets.

Right.

Atkins is a low carb diet - so it is high in fats and proteins -
at least as far as the percentages go.

Wrong. You seriously need to actually read the book so you know what
foods are supposed to be eaten. And you need to do that before you
blather on further misrepresenting what the Atkins process is.

Problem is, Tim, that Atkins is then criticised for being a 'dangerously'
high-fat or 'worryingly' high-protein diet -- even though the *absolute
amounts of these food-types consumed* may actually be *lower* for an
appetite-suppressed Atkins dieter than for the sugar-crazed carb-junkie
sitting next to them.

It depends on how you define "high fat". If you define "high fat"
in terms of high caloric intake, Atkins forbids over eating once the
initial carb cravings of the first week are gone. So Atkins is not
high fat in that sense because it's forbidden to eat enough to
acheive that. If you define "high fat" in terms of percentage of
the calories that are actually eaten, once you've read all 4 editions
of the book to see what foods are mandated, you will understand that
Atkins is indeed high fat by that definition. But words like
dangerously and worryingly are scaremongering falsehoods when you
get to the actual facts.

My impression is that Atkins diet restricts carbohydrates - but not
fat or protein. So people eat more fat and protein to make up
for the lack of carbohydrates.

You seriously need to read the book before you blather on in further
misrepresentation of what Atkins actually is. Atkins controls carbs
and that isn't the same as restricting them. Atkins also controls
fat and protein by forbidding over eating.

You're a *bright guy*, Tim -- so *why* do you keep selling out to the Dark
Side on this matter? What issues do you have with this? Seriously. There
*has to be a reason* why you stop making sense whenever this stuff crops
up...

The Atkins diet appears to be a bad one :-|

Unless you're honest. Tim you really need to stop misrepresenting
what Atkins actually is. Before you post further on a topic you are
ignorant about, you need to read at least one edition of the book.
Doctor Atkins (New) Diet Revolution 1972, 1993, 199 or 2002. They
are at every public library.

People should be encouraged to eat more fruit and vegetables

Oh, you mean Atkins then. Right. The plan that has mandatory veggies
from day one to the point where the vast majority of At-kids eat far
more veggies after starting than they did in their entire lives before
starting. Gotcha. Tim, get some honesty man. Read the book and
stop the misrepresentations.

A lie is when someone tells a falsehood that they know is false. A
mistake is when someone tells a falsehood that they beleive to be
true. Read the book, Tim, and stop the mistakes. Because now you
have been told so from here on out if you continue to misrepresent
what Atkins actualyl is, you'll be lying.