On May 21, 9:35 pm, "George" wrote:
Right on, Joanne! Mental attitude and commitment to a healthy lifestyle are
all that are necessary. But continuous mental focus on proper lifestyle is
difficult, so weak-minded people choose to follow the WW creed, instead.

WW is all about meetings, points, and eating harmful foods "in moderation"
to satisfy those cravings. Oh, and about collecting membership fees, of
course.

Can you imagine that a WW member (above) posted that drinking water was such
a struggle??!! And take a look atwww.weigh****chers.com:much of their
Website is glitzy pictures of food! Make no mistake: WW is a for-profit
operation, first and foremost. Actual weightloss is second priority.

"The points-based plans (like WW) control portion size by allowing calories
that should be consumed on healthy food with very small portions of
potentially unhealthy food. This strategy gives the dieter a false sense of
the real nutritional changes they need to make in their lives for long-term
success. If one seriously wants to lose weight and keep it off in the
long-term, they need to think more comprehensively about the foods they eat.
The program does not put a priority on exercise, which is essential.
Long-term group therapy impedes the development of self-reliance and
self-discipline, which is clearly the most important trait in those 5% of
dieters who succeed in the long-term. Although Weight Watchers is an
average diet program, you'll see way better results with today's top diets
like Nutrisystem and Medifast."http://www.top10z.com/weight-loss-diets/review-diet.php?ID=25&kwid=3-ww

The unvoiced WW motto is "There's a sucker born every minute - keep those
fees coming in." WW cleverly appeals to the desire of overweight people to
continue their addiction to fattening food and to avoid strenuous exercise,
despite their common sense. Did you know that a large food producer owned
WW for two decades? Now, tell me, why would a food producer want to own WW?

The result of this victimization of members, sadly, can be seen in the many
postings in this NG by WW members who experience yo-yo weight fluctuations
throughout their lives.

"joni" wrote in message

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On May 12, 10:23 pm, Bazooka-Joe wrote:
I WILL NOT GO BACK TO BEING FAT AGAIN!

You may say that, but without scrutinizing the whys behind your
recent weight gain, you are doomed to repeat it over and over again.
Why would you continue to eat/indulge/large dinners etc when you KNOW
thats the road back to packing on the pounds? Once in awhile swiftly
becomes and everyday habit again. Is it simply self-sabotage? Is it
denial? Usually, those who keep the weight off make certain decisions
to change things about their lifestyle, while those who gain it all
back just cant take that leap and continually go back to habits they
know are self destructive. So I think there is alot to be said for
fixing ones head with an introspective look before you begin WW again.
Plot the next two weeks to set small goals, clean up your eating,
increase your exercise and then reweigh yourself. I think you'll be
surprised that alot of the temporary bloat is gone.
Going to WW meetings, posting in groups etc are all good support (dont
get me wrong here) but if you dont have the 'faith' to do it for
yourself(to know you have the inner strength), its kind of like
sinning outside of church. You know you shouldnt but you do anyways.
It all comes down to you and the choices you make and not solely
relying on the support of others to somehow 'make' you change
temporarily, gaining it back, and then running back to them to
remanage your eating habits again and again. Kind of like a vicious
cycle. (Been there done that!) You have to make your own checks and
balances and decide that you want this to be a permanent change for
the better. WW has given you the nutritional education base you needed
at one time, its up to you to implement it and stick with it.

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Holy cow. When did this group become so full of pseudo-spiritual,
touchy-feely, psycho analysts? Addressing my lifestyle? Find my
inner dieter? It's really easy to sit on a high-horse from your
comfortable computer terminal wherever you're at and spout
generalizations, stereotypes, and blanket statements without siting
any sort of reliable source, link to a scientific journal, or even so
much as an expert blog opinion.

In case the title of the newsgroup wasn't clear, this group is for WW
members to support each other. I'm no longer a member, I'm an ex-
member (an ex-member that as of today is back down to his original
goal weight thank you very much). Say what you want about the
program...I realize it's not for everybody. For those it is for, it
works. It's a free country, so post whatever you want. But don't be
surprised to get negative feedback as you misuse the this group for
your own rantings.

And if you're a troll, then yeah, I fell for it. I fed a troll.
Troll's gotta eat to, right? Oh that's right, you don't need food
anymore since you've developed your self-reliance. Good luck with
that.

:Bazooka-Joe