Weight watchers, followed the way it is designed including the tools for
living, is really the only program that addresses all those things people
need for long term success.

Empowerment
Tools for changing behavior
Support

and to a lesser degree, sensible dietary advice (not counting their own junk
food sales pitches, just the guidelines).

--
Lesanne
"Willow" wrote in message
m...
I won't give you numbers because one I don't have them.. and two I'm not a
number person.. ) Guess I'm more the intuitive type as opposed to the
calculating type..

Which is probably why I like points..

Besides, I'm in California.. from what I've heard we're supposed to be the
"lets be happy with the flowers and angels all over the place" kinda
persons
right?? ;op~~~~

You've got to be a engineer or a IT guy.. ;op

Seriously though, I tend to preach and I'm sorry. I love the WW
program..it
changed my life so completely.. I just want everybody to be successful too
and get to know what "being alive" really means.. ) Does that make
sense?

To me it's the way to loose weight, maintain, and get back on track when
you
stray without having to put your life on the break while you get back to
shape. I know what works for me might not work for somebody else.. I know
some people don't want or need the meetings.. to me they are essentials...
I
tend to forget that I'm a member here.. not the group's leader.. I don't
have to have all the answers.. or to guide everybody..

I try to remind myself of that when I'm here.. but sometimes I forget..
guess is a good lesson to learn.. makes me a better leader in the end ;o)

By the way love the email addy ! doug@persevering!

Hehehe Be good!

--
Will~

"... so that's how liberty ends, in a round of applause."

Queen Amidala, The revenge of the Syth.


"Doug Lerner" wrote in message
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On 11/30/05 1:47 PM, in article
, "Willow"

2- The points are not based only on calories.. but also on the amount
the
fat grams and fiber grams the food contains.. so there's not a set
number of
calories to it..

Technically that is true, but for all practical purposes it is basically
50
calories per point. I've seen the equation (it's a copyrighted equation,
so
it's listed with the government in a publicly accessible area!). No
matter
how little fat a serving of food has, or how much fiber, the points never
vary much from basically 50 calories per point.


The number of points you are allowed depends on how much you weight..
so
again there isn't a set number of calories. 227lbs means 28 pts as a
daily
target(minimum in a day) plus 35 pts a week.. 231 pts per week plus
your
activity pts which you earn by being physically active..

That averages to 33 points per day, or about 1650 calories per day. That
is
very close to the 1700 calories per day I have been aiming for.



I don't think you're undereating so much as overthinking..

hahaha.

I can't help you
with the calories counting.. because I don't do it, and I think it's a
very
bad system.. it doesn't take account of the quality of the foods you're
eating.. only the calories..

Maybe. But I really don't think it is all that different from WW points.
I
think they are statistically indistinguishable. I would rethink using
calories and use WW points instead if there were some numbers showing I
am
wrong though.


I can tell you that the Weight Watchers system works as is.. and that
to
me,
it's the easiest and healthiest way to go. plateaus happens, slow downs
happens, gain happens.. it's all part of loosing weight.. there's no
perfect
solution.. but there's only two things that will bring you to long
lasting
success, patience and perseverance..

Thanks.

doug@persevering!