Oh yeah, I have come up with some rather silly colored eyes when trying to get rid
of the red. My dark eyed daughter looks rather silly with luminescent eyes ...
gave them kind of an eerie glow. I hope to figure it out someday, so far haven't
had too much patience in that department.

I've never heard of Thumbsplus before. Will do some searching around to see if
they have a trial version available. The cheap monster in me is tired of putting
money out for products I'm not thrilled with.

Joyce

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 11:00:21 -0800, Fred wrote:

What's nice about the red-correction is you can make it blue-eye,
brown, black, green or other even when that is NOT your intent! (G)

I've also wound up with what I will call cataract eye. Yup - not
simple. Thumbsplus use to have a simple red-eye correction. I'm not
sure about their recent offerings.

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 10:48:14 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:22:10 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:08:15 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:33:01 -0800, Fred wrote:

Join the "unwillingness to change club!"

Some of this upgrade stuff is driven by microsoft - how to make money
continually if you have nothing new (not necessarily improved) to
sell. The same with a lot of other software places now. I'm not sure
that I need the latest stuff in Paint Shop Pro but did upgrade. Now
there are tools that are completely beyond any digital stuff I will
ever and i mean EVER use.

LOL! That's the one program I upgraded recently, too. Not by my doing though,
daughter requested the new program - told me there was stuff there that she just
HAD to have. Uh huh, sure. I'm a pushover. g Came with a good deal though,
$30 rebate (I think) on the upgrade price. All I need for photo manipulation is
the crop button and resize capability... sometimes a red eye fix (which I am
finding rather difficult in version 8). I'm a simple person. g

You, too. Red Eye is entirely too complex. I should go over the
tutorials again, since they do show how to lighten dark areas and lots
of intricate fixes but much of it is very complex.

Yup. In one of the earlier versions, the red eye was simple ... select, click,
done. I just can't get the hang of it in 8. I can do the basic, but the eyes
keep coming out looking funky and fake. They've made it way too difficult. Now
I'll have to look into some other programs for ease of editing. My son likes
photo shop, I tried it long ago but for some reason *complex* is sitting in my
brain regarding that program also.

I do search out NEW and creative applications and particularly, like
utilities. I am willing to install and remove stuff like that.

I like that the new Agent will make using two News Servers easier.
But it can be done now but you have to manually create a separate
directory structure which is not that hard - now that I know how. I
see that they are going to Personalities - frankly, Eudora's
Personalities totally lost me - never could get it to work. Just let
me install my separate accounts for email and I'm happy.

I don't use two news servers, so probably won't need the updated Agent .. unless
there are some other valuable perks offered with it. On your advice, I did set up
the BAT for multiple email accounts, I just forget to run it. I have my main
email on netscape, only because I have tons of folders set up to save emails and I
couldn't figure out how to do that on BAT. But my other emails are on BAT, I just
forget to run the program. When things calm down, maybe I'll get in there and try
to figure things out again.

Well, I seem to stick with CIS for this place and one or two others
and use AT&T for their support newsgroups. But even the current
Agent can do that. I do have 3 email id's (ignoring the supplementary
AT&T ones I've created for their webspace)

I only use CIS, don't really have any need for another one. I have 3 emails ids
that I use for various purposes. I don't need constant access to the other 2 (one
is business, gets very little in email other than at tax time when the accountant
needs to bust my ears - but being able to access all from one program is so much
nicer than having to reopen Netscape each time I want to check the accounts.

Joyce