Yes, but you told a 120 lb lady that she needs less than 12g of protein per
day to gain muscle.

Ignoramus16314 wrote:
:: An interesting post.
::
:: Myself, I did not advocate eating "less meat" or anything of the
:: sort. Meat is great and I love it. That was not the point of my
:: recent
:: posts in this thread. I was just exposing the fallacy of assuming
:: that
:: large doses of protein (as opposed to normal doses of protein), would
:: benefit a regular person who does a little bit of exercising, as far
:: as building muscle strength or size is concerned.
::
:: i
::
:: In article , Duffy
:: wrote:
::: "Roger Zoul" wrote in message
::: ...
:::: tHatDudeUK wrote:
:::::: "Ignoramus3739" wrote in
:::::: message
:::::: ...
::::::: I have no idea... but I would be a little wary of radical diets.
:::::::
::::::: How tall are you, what's your weight etc, how much are you
::::::: trying to
::::::: lose?
::::::
:::::: 6' 3" (190 cm)
:::::: 14 stone (89 Kg)
:::::: Hoping to lose 2-3 stone (15-20 kg) [or convert fat to muscle
:::::: somehow] Age 23 years
:::::: No known health problems.
::::::
:::::: I have (I'm guessing in comparison with the average male of my
:::::: age)
:::::: low muscle tone, strength and stamina (my g/f can beat me at
:::::: arm-wrestling [which isn't very good, how ashamed I am :-)]).
::::::
:::::: I also have a big belly I'd like to get rid of.
::::::
:::::: Any further thoughts on possible diet?
::::
:::: Yeah, forgot this high protein, low carb, low fat diet and just do
:::: low carb.
:::: Lift weights, do cardio and eat low carb. I've lost 117 lbs so
:::: far, and I'm
:::: very happy. Muscle, stamina, and strength have all increased,
:::: while fat has
:::: decreased. Tone is greatly improved.
::::
:::: Doing low fat and low carb will make you miserable. It is likely
:::: you won't
:::: be able to stay on such a diet for very long. Be sure to eat lot
:::: of high
:::: fiber veggies.
::::
:::: And if you don't like low carb, then do low fat. But LC is better
:::: imo
:::: because it usually prevents muscle loss compared to low fat.
:::
::: Roger, Roger, Roger, doing low fat and low carb doesn't make me
::: miserable! I'll tell you, I get crazy when see statements like
::: "Doing
::: low fat and low carb will make you miserable." because while the
::: statement might be true for you, it is not true for all.
:::
::: Not everyone can take the high-fat regime of the Atkins diet. I
::: can't.
::: My digestion doesn't tolerate more than a taste of mayo, heavy
::: cream,
::: butter, etc. Fat on meat makes me really sick. I've been in the ER
::: more than once because I ate too much fat. Granted, I am on the
::: extreme end of the scale. However, I know that other folks out find
::: that the high fat content of the typical Atkins diet doesn't agree
::: with them. Or they don't choose to do it. Yes I know that the
::: results
::: about dietary fat and heart disease are inconclusive. But some
::: people
::: believe it. And those folks still want to eat low carb.
:::
::: Either way, a person can eat very happily from a reasonable low-fat,
::: low-carb diet. It takes a little more planning. It takes learning
::: about nutrional values. But it can be done. I'm living proof. And
::: now,
::: so are my husband and son!!!!!!!
:::
::: Is my diet the Ornish low fat diet? Of course not. But is my diet
::: lower in fat than the typical Atkins plan. Yeppers. It
::: works-honestly.
::: And I'm not the least bit miserable. (At least not about the food
::: part
::: of my life!!!)
:::
::: Duffy
::: 182/124
::: since 12-01-01