On Sep 5, 5:27*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:17:48 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger

wrote:

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And while I wouldn't want government
stepping in and telling manufacturers what they should make (God
forbid!), companies that are aware of (or should have been aware of)
the dangers of replacing various FOOD ingredients with processed
chemicals, knowingly making false claims, taking advantage of gullible
consumers like you, etc., should be roundly criticised, even sued out
of existence (See: Big Tobacco).

Consider the problem of margarine. *It was sincerely believed to be
better when it first came out. *It wasn't known that tobacco causes
problems until much of the world was addicted.

I disagree. Butter was tied to the saturated fat scare. But many
scientists knew that there was no credible data to support it. It was
purely a political decision (we can thank Eisenhower and McGovern for
that one), plain and simple.

But as Doug and I pointed out, the companies are just
responding to what the mainstream opinion was which
created demand for a product. It matters
not a wit if it was based on totally sound science, or a govt
recommendation. The public was told and accepted that
margarine was a safe substitute for butter, which was bad.
Companies in turn made margarine products in response
to that demand and people bought it. You can't rewrite
history, we were there and say it.





Being a little bit low-carb, in my mind, is to look for loopholes
(have your cake and eat it too). *Eventually those loopholes add up,
and you're not really eating low-carb anymore.

Not all people respond the same way. Not all people
need a very low carb diet to benefit. Not all people
are overweight to begin with. I think it's perfectly
fine if people want to do what I would call a reduced
carb diet, where they avoid a significant amount of
refined carbs. If it works for them, fine. Your position is extreme.





Wheat (even small
amounts) stimulates appetite, and who wants that?


If you have some studies that show that wheat as
opposed to other similar foods has that effect, I'm
sure we'd all like to see them.

Studies?......