On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:37:34 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Jul 19, 4:31*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:41:00 +0000, Stawley

wrote:
Hum, difficult t osay what caused the heart attack, isn't it? could have
been unrelated to nutrition.

Maybe. But whether you agree with the conventional wisdom regarding
"high" cholesterol levels, etc., being largely responsible for heart
attacks, or not, diet and nutrition almost certainly play key roles,
along with lifestyle factors and genetics. On the other hand, even
your genetics (based on the diet and nutrition of your parents) can be
affected by lifestyle and nutrition. See: epigenetics.

One thing we do know is: A low-cholesterol vegetarian diet didn't
prevent him from having a heart attack.

--
Dogman


Of course it's totally meaningless that one vegetarian
had a heart attack.
No one credible in the real world of
science and medicine has ever said any diet will prevent
100% of heart attacks.

Tru dat (not that you'd know a real scientist if he bit you in the
ass). But many "scientists" claim the risk is significantly *lowered*
by eating vegetarian and vegan diets.

Despite the scientific evidence that 75% of patients with CAD had
LDL-cholesterol levels *below* the current guidelines of the National
Cholesterol Education Program (NCEP) of 130 milligrams (50% had
LDL-cholesterol levels below 100 milligrams!).
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...?dopt=Abstract

And why do most people eat vegetarian and vegan diets in the first
place? Because they think fat and cholesterol (per se) are bad for
them, to avoid CAD, etc. And that's too bad.

And so is taking statins, for the vast majority of us.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman