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Old September 21st, 2003, 09:40 PM
HealthNutz
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"ange" wrote in message
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Freedom isn't and wasn't yours to give. Yes there was a war, and yes,

Nor yours to throw away to appease those that would steal it from me!

Something you liberals never seem to grasp: freedom, is not free. You can
not "bequeath it" to or confer it upon someone. It must be wrested from
those that would deny it to you. Guarded jealously. And fought for without
quarter when threatened. If it's not worth your life to get and hold
freedom, then you are a waste of protoplasm and a ready stooge for the next
dictator that comes along.

Wiser men by far than I, have put it far more eloquently:
"The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which
is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and
has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of
better men than himself."-John Stuart Mills

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better
than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not
your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May
your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our
countrymen." - Samuel Adams 1776

the wellbeing of many countries was in jeopardy, including the USA, from

Yes. And PUT into jeopardy because other countries were staffed by feckless
cowards unwilling to fight for their own freedom (that does not, of course,
apply to those countries too small and weak to mount a defense against a
larger, better armed aggressor), visionaries too blind to see the past, and
thinkers too dulled with local and private matters to take stock that their
country--nay, their whole way of life--was being threatened, UNTIL IT WAS
LOST!

the actions of aggressors during the second world war. But please do
not try and take some kind of moral high ground about selfless actions.
More than 30 million people died in that war, of which 285,000 were

Yes. That is true. But, you should have added, most of those deaths were
at the hands of totalitarian/socialists--the very class of people that
liberals try their best to imitate, and from which they constantly seek to
curry favor.

So, you would have me take a "moral low ground" instead? Do you really
think that by standing next to you, it would be a benefit to me? To
freedom? Are you truly so naive?

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because it can. Listen to yourself "you would be well advised to..."
Big bully. You don't have a clue what other cultures are like, all you
see is some strange sanitized version of what your media manipulators
want you to see. Wake up!!!

You sound like a child, you silly-ninny. Grow up! See if you can blink
through your tears enough to get a grip on freedom and liberty. Then look
me in the eye and tell me that you're "okay" with losing it. BTDT; didn't
like it much! If it hadn't been for the United States and her magnificent
Navy during WWII, you "Kiwi's" would be eating your mutton with chopsticks
today.

If you like we can compare passports and count stamps, times, and dates to
see who is well traveled...


Later all,
DustyB

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So many idiots and fools, so few comets...
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