On Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:39:19 +0000 (UTC), Doug Freyburger
wrote:

[...]
Personal responsibility *can* *not* work in the face of endless pressure
to do the wrong thing. People jumped on the low fat bandwagon in droves
and got fat.

I disagree. If something isn't working, try something else. Do more
research, etc. Taking responsibility means that you won't quit until
you find a solution.

That's what it means to me, anyway.

You bet. But it doesn't really help anyone lose weight, and can even
help to increase your weight, chance of injury, etc. Better to lose
the weight first, primarily through diet and very moderate (safe)
exercise, then, once the weight is lost, decide on what kind of
exercise is right for you.

Better still to start including some exercise any exercise from the gate
and build appropriately as you lose.

Sure, I don't have a problem with that (which is why I said moderate
exercise, e.g., walking), provided the person understands that his
weight loss will be coming from eating properly, not from exercising.
And that it might make him even hungrier, cause injury, etc.

It leaves the door
open to low-calorie, high-carbohydrate food products that make the
economy hum, are portable, do not require we learn to cook, make
children stop crying, and taste good. Any efforts at reporting science
to the contrary will always have a rough road."

And all that industry need do is observe what sells well, make more of
it, and advertise it. No ulterior motives othe than profit are needed.

Yep. GREED kills.

But it's duty not greed. At least for some. Businesses have a duty to
profit. Businesses hire greedy folks to implement the process or they
just plain hire professionals who do it.

Frankly, I don't care what businesses do. I'm a free-market
capitalist. And I wouldn't even want to restrict a company's right to
sell CRAP (I think Nanny Bloomberg should be tarred and feathered!).
Because I believe in personal responsibility, and it's my personal
responsibility to make the effort, do the research, etc., and not to
eat that CRAP. Or get that FAT. Waiting around for companies, and
people, for that matter, to do the right thing, is an exercise in
futility. I can control what *I* do, so it doesn't really matter to me
what *they* do.

It takes a looooong time to correct most errors (I think we can agree
on that), and I only get a certain amount of time on this planet. But
I don't have to wait around for them to finally get it right; I can
get it right myself. Today. And I do.

The only person responsible for my heath is moi. Not the government,
not the scientists, not the doctors. Just little ol' moi.

Again, that's my opinion and I'm stickin' to it.

--
Dogman

"I have approximate answers and possible beliefs in different degrees of certainty
about different things, but I'm not absolutely sure of anything" - Richard Feynman