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Old November 4th, 2003, 01:54 PM
Roger Zoul
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Luna wrote:
:: In article , "Logorrhea"
:: wrote:
::
::: Here's a point to debate. Is anyone trying to LC solo, without
::: telling the folks back home? I have so far lost 11 pounds [272 to
::: 261] since 8/18 without DW noticing either the weight loss or the
::: fact that I'm picking my way selectively around the food in the
::: evenings. That's not the full story, as I got to 259 in early
::: September - but then had an unrelated health reverse which meant I
::: put back 8 pounds over a month. I resumed this WOE with
::: determination on October 27.
:::
::: Now, before anyone says anything, it is [of course] possible that
::: she's noticed the difference but is deliberately saying nothing -
::: as her own way of playing games with me!

I'd bet she has notice...and her not saying anything is likely not a
game...she could be very happy about it.

I don't think this is the
::: case, however, as 5 years ago I grew a moustache while on vacation.
::: She didn't like it, so I shaved it off on our return. It really
::: was 4 days before she noticed that!

I find it hard to believe that she saw you everyday and didn't notice your
moustache was missing. Come now.

More recently, she didn't even
::: relate Saturday's necessary purchase of a pair of suspenders to any
::: physical change in me.

But she may simply have thought you wanted a new pair!

She is usually very observant. I guess
::: that being with someone every day blinds you to infinitesimal
::: changes, whereas someone you don't see in 6 months will immediately
::: be struck by the difference in profile.

Honestly, I think you're misreading the sitaution.


:::
::: My WOE is to organize my own breakfast and lunch, and go carefully
::: with the evening meal. Weekends are tricky, because of eating with
::: the kids. I tend to stabilize my weight over Saturday and Sunday,
::: resuming the down-curve on Mondays.

If that works for you, more power to you!

:::
::: I am 6'4", and my first target is 225. After that, we'll see ...
:::
:::
::
:: I don't understand. Why would you be keeping your new lifestyle a
:: secret from your wife? Do you think she wouldn't be supportive? Or
:: do you think you're going to fail so you don't want anyone else to
:: know you even tried
:: in the first place? Or are you testing her in some way so that if
:: she doesn't notice on her own you can use this as ammunition in
:: fights? Or
:: maybe you have a compassionate reason, such as, maybe she is
:: overweight too and you don't want to seem to be pressuring her into
:: losing weight.
::

Maybe he wants his actions to speak for him. I find that announcing I'm
going to try to lose weight to people and then not doing it to be
embarrassing. Much better, imo, to just do it and let the resultl speak for
themselves.

I see no need for you or me or anyone to understand.

:: Deciding to change the way you eat and live and look and feel is a
:: major
:: life decision,

I agree.

I think it's best to let your loved ones know you're
:: doing
:: it.

Why? So they can see you fail? This becomes a major problem for people who
diet a lot and fail. Just do it -- don't yap about it. You can think of
that as a *man thang* if you wish.

Losing weight isn't a minor thing like getting a haircut or
:: growing a mustache, it's a physical, mental, and emotional journey
:: that can change
:: many aspects of your life.

True, but once he has lost enough for these factors to matter, what he is
doing will be obvious to everyone.

Be open and honest with your wife. And
:: good
:: for you for starting and I wish you lots of luck and dropped pounds!

His body, his science experiment. His wife is there to see what he is
eating....I don't see this as him not being open and honest with her....if
she asks, he can simply respond.