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Old October 5th, 2004, 08:06 PM
Roger Zoul
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GaryG wrote:
:: "Ignoramus7068" wrote in message
:: ...
::: I can relate my experience with "portion controlled dieting" vs.
::: "low carb dieting".
:::
::: Contrary to what that expert says, volume of food, quantity of water
::: etc, does not have a big effect on my satiety. (except for the first
::: few days, probably the same for others that show in short term
::: experiments) I could have my stomach completely full of water and
::: vegetables and still be hungry, meaning thinking about food and
::: wanting more.
:::
::: Second, saying that low carb diets are really low calorie diets
::: because, even though the dieter eats all he wants, he eats low cal,
::: completely misses the point.
:::
::: The point is that a person who would not regulate his calorie intake
::: on a high carb diet, can now regulate it on a high fat diet. The
::: calorie regulation system that was thought to be broken, can work by
::: itself, once I changed what I eat. If I overeat fat, I skip the next
::: meal or eat a lot less afterwards, because I am not hungry.
:::
::: For me, low carb is not a "metabolic loophole", using Dr Atkins
::: words. It is not "cheating the system". It is a way to eat to
::: function normally, in the sense that such that normal appetite can
::: control weight.
:::
::: My hope is that this low carbing is not harmful to my health and
::: that my body won't adapt to it, after a while, in ways that would
::: make me gain weight on LC.
:::
::: i
::: 223/173/180
::
:: I'm mostly agnostic with regards to the claims of LC diets. I
:: suspect they can be useful for some folks, especially those who
:: don't exercise very much (as an avid cyclist, I doubt Atkins would
:: keep me fueled). And I also know that when I've tried restricting
:: fats, I found myself with more cravings, and afternoon sleepiness.
:: So, clearly there's a "grain of truth" (pun intended) in the LC
:: approach. Currently, I try for a somewhat "higher-protein and good
:: fats, with lots of fruit and veggies" diet, and find self-regulation
:: to be pretty easy (most days...).
::
:: My only concern with the Atkins style approach is (as I understand
:: it), the de-emphasis on fruits and vegetables. Many recent studies
:: have consistently shown that folks who eat more fruits and
:: vegetables have less health problems (cancers, in particular). See
:: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/fruits.html for instance.
::
:: So, are the Atkins folks getting enough fruits and veggies in their
:: diets? FWIW, some experts recommend 9 servings of fruit and
:: vegetables per day, while others recommend 5 or more. Are Atkins
:: folks getting near these recommended levels?

Gary - exactly who are "Aktins folks"? Perhaps you should read up on Atkins
and other LC plans, because you don't really know much about them.

::
:: GG