On Oct 8, 2:24*pm, Dogman wrote:


Yet it was you just a week or so ago that was lecturing
us on how we absolutely must check our blood glucose
response and lipid response to anything suspect that
we eat.

That's a lie, no matter how many times you copy and paste your reply.

Here it is for you from that other thread:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...b/browse_frm/t...

Trader4:
So, I see. *The new reqirement is that anyone that chooses to use
a LC product like Carbquik must now purchase a glucometer
and do a study on themselves before they use it, even if they
are not diabetic and doing perfectly fine with years of LC
experience.

It's still a lie! I said everyone *should* want to. Period.


Not a word about "absolutely" or "must" do anything.


OK, you said everyone who uses Carbquik "should" do both a
BG test on themselves, even if they are not diabetic, and also
lipid testing, with and without Carbquik to see if it has an effect
on it. And then when I pointed out it makes no sense, you
continued to insist on it. Do you feel better? Do you really
think that materially
changes it? Does it change how dumb it is to think that a
person's blood lipids are going to show a measurable difference
from just a few Carbquik pancakes a week compared to
the 99.99% of the rest of the food they eat?




Just like they should want to know their BP, their *measured* LDL-P
(or apoB) numbers, and other KEY health markers.


No, what you proposed was testing to determine the specific
effect of Carbquik.





dogman:
Only if they're smart!

Trader4:
And now Dogman
has tried to extend that to testing the product's effect on your
LDL? * I eat maybe 6 Carbquik pancakes a week and then
not even every week. * How the
hell could anyone expect me to test for it's effect on LDL?

dogman:
Easy, dumb****. Eat that way for a good 90 days, then have an NMR
test
(a test you *should* want to have done anyway).
Is your LDL particle number (LDL-P) low? Or high?

So it's clear what you said.

Yes, that it's a test that everyone *should* want to have done anyway
(and for many reasons).

LOL, sure now try to run away from it. You specifically said to
do the testing relative to Carbquik and it's all there in context for
all to see. And of course you could not possibly just do the testing
just once, you'd have to do it at least twice, with and without
the Carbquik. And that is assuming any rational person believes
that there is going to be any measurable difference in lipids from
eating a few Carbquik pancakes a week, as opposed to the 99.99
percent of the rest of one's diet.



?YOU are the dumb****, as you've proven time
and time again. Whether anyone else wants to join your ranks, well,
that's their choice.

Are you as sure about that as you are that HIV is harmless?




You said *that those of us
that use Carbquik and that are not diabetic should do BG
monitoring or we're not smart.

No, just that YOU aren't smart.

QED.

And why are you always shilling for Carbquik? And drugs?

I've never been shilling for either. Carbquik only came up
in the discussion because someone brought up LC flour
substitutes. For examples of shilling, you need to look no
further than all the many posts YOU have made referring to
the preachings of Dr. WheatBelly and posting link after link
to his website. Why the newsgroup is just full of them
and they are ALL from YOU.




And what is really, really
dumb is to suggest that lipid testing should be done too.

Yes, it *should* be done, provided they want to know if they're at
high risk for a heart attack and/or CAD.

Nice try, but it was lipid testing specific to Carbquik that
you recommended.



Like a few Carbquik pancakes are going to show up in
a lipid test and be able to be seperated out from the 99.9%
of the other food one eats. *Dumb, really, really, dumb
and everyone else here knows it too.

Yes, the regular use of Carbquik, i.e., WHEAT, is going to affect your
LDL-P number, and your LDL-P number is a critical number for CAD and
heart attacks.

So there you go again. Back to claiming that eating a few
Carbquik pankcakes a week is going to have a measurable
effect on your blood lipid levels. Did someone else hyjack
your puter and post this yesterday:


dogman:
It should be implied that no one should eat something that he or she is
actually sensitive or allergic to, but there's no reason beyond that
to avoid foods that contain nitrates and nitrites, for example, a fear
of cancer, heart attack, etc. In fact, doing so may actually be
counterproductive to one's health.

So, what's up with that? First it's non-diabetics need to test
their BG and lipid response specific to a few Carbquik pancakes a
week.
Then it's unless you have an allergic reaction or sensitivity to
something, there is no reason to do even a simple elimination test to
see how it effects you? Now it's back to you should do BG tests
and lipid tests.
dogman:

"I have no idea what those two things have to do with each other. "


Of course not, because you're just soooo way in over your head
here dear.




But then you believe HIV is harmless, that AIDS
is caused by poor diet and lack of sleep, and that no
virus can cause cancer.
AIDS is caused by AIDS drugs

Absolutely!



Nuff said......