On Jul 31, 1:37*pm, Dogman wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:21:59 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:

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And sadly if you listen to the AIDS denialists, you
won't avoid many of those paths to infection since
they tell you that HIV is harmless.

And since it *is* harmless, by avoiding the REAL risks and behaviors
expressed by Duesberg, et al., "AIDS" may (if we're lucky) eventually
just "dissappear" all by itself one day. In like a lion, out like a
lamb.

Duesberg is a denialist douche bag. And if people
listen to him and you, many will die. Actually Duesberg is
a good example of a denialist who has helped cost thousands
of people people their lives. He was an advisor to South Africa
under president Thabo Mbeki and helped convice him not to
take the appropriate public health steps the rest of the world was
taking to prevent the spread of AIDS.


From Time Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/arts/articl...,43510,00.html

"Duesberg has been so thoroughly discredited among AIDS researchers in
the U.S. that this is equivalent to South Africa trying to import out-
of-date medicines," says TIME medical correspondent Christine Gorman.
"If South Africa approaches this question in good faith they'll find
out what everybody else has figured out, which is that HIV causes AIDS
— but in the meantime hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of
people will suffer because of some misplaced distrust of medical
authority."

With AIDS threatening to wipe out a full 25 percent of South Africa's
population by the year 2010, the current debate has arisen over the
government's responsibilities in treating the disease. Despite growing
pressure from the South African medical and AIDS activist communities,
the government refuses to make available the drugs AZT or Nevirapine
to rape victims and pregnant women. Some 22 percent of pregnant women
in South Africa are HIV-positive, and AZT and Nevirapine have been
successful in preventing mother-to-child transmission of the virus.
"AZT has been shown to prevent transmission of the virus to unborn
children," says Gorman. "There's always a chance that HIV won't
transmit and that some of those being treated might now have
contracted HIV anyway, but even if women aren't compelled to take it
there's no excuse not to make it available."

That was from 2000. Since then we have 12 more years
of evidence that HIV causes AIDS that Duesberg and similar
denialists continue to ignore.




And morons like you will be left standing there, scratching your
heads, and going: "WTF happened"?

Moron.

--
Dogman


You and the denialists should be doing that now. Doug
said that if a vaccine for HIV was developed and those
vaccinated no longer got AIDS, it would prove that HIV
causes AIDS. But of course that won't work because
for denialists, nothing will ever prove it to you. For
example, the whole world saw that as soon as a test
for HIV was available for blood products, hemophiliacs
stopped getting AIDS. Kids like Ryan White no longer
got AIDS and died. Same thing with blood transfusion
recipients. Powerful proof, that we all saw with our own
eyes and has been documented extensively by AIDS
researchers. But the denialist just reject all the real
science that doesn't fit their belief system and agenda.