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Old April 1st, 2010, 04:18 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
GreenXenon
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Default Healthiest Diet Possible

On Mar 31, 6:27*pm, sometimers
wrote:


On 3/31/2010 6:38 PM, GreenXenon wrote:

On Mar 31, 11:35 am,
wrote:


Bill Gates started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. Apple
computers started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. Janet
Long started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. If you have
a good idea and cleverness you to can create a similar success, if
you have faith in your idea. Any idea, no matter how good it is, without
cleverness, is doomed to failure.


How do I add cleverness to my idea?


If you have to ask......



Huh?




I am, frankly, weary with people who claim to have a great idea and
then expect others to bring their idea to fruition. Usually their
idea sucks. Can you prove that yours doesn't?


What about my idea sucks? It would provide all nutrients necessary to
live the longest and most healthy life possible.




I didn't say you idea was good or bad. If you have a good idea you
should be able to sell it yourself or find someone who will believe
in it as much as you do.



I'm trying to find people who will support the product as much as me.
That's why I'm posting messages on the net.



Example is in the TV commercial about a fellow who wants to import
ice from foreign countries. Investor has a pin that pricks that
balloon when he says, "Why can't people simply freeze their
imported water?"



I understand the logic but how does that relate?


Where it comes to such severely processed food stuff you might want
to watch a movie called "Soylent Green" before you trek down that
particular path.



I did a wiki search on that movie. Pretty crazy situation.
  #12  
Old April 1st, 2010, 05:33 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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In article
,
GreenXenon wrote:

Hi:

Please join my yahoo health group:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...Food_Possible/

Iąm currently thinking of a hypothetical diet product that is vegan-
friendly and has all the nutrients of vegetables, fruits, herbs,
algae, seaweed, mushrooms and other non-animal organisms that are
necessary/beneficial for human health. It also contains beneficial and
essential microbes [such as probiotics]. All the aforementioned are in
amounts optimum for human health.

This product is completely organic and free of any pesticides,
synthetic ethylene and other man-made substances that compromise the
health of organisms and their human consumers. In addition, no
organisms used in the product are genetically-engineered. Equally
important is the soil and other conditions used to grow these
organisms is healthy, organic, and free of pollutants.

This product may be extremely healthy to live off of. However, it will
likely taste bad. To make this product consumable, oral equipment is
included. This apparatus includes a mouth piece * made of health-
friendly, eco-friendly material * that will coat the tongue, teeth,
gums, and pretty much the entire mouth of the consumer to protect him/
her from perceiving the noxious flavors. The mouth piece is firm
enough to maintain its shape yet soft enough to be comfortable to the
consumer. The part of the device covering the tongue is thin and
especially soft, so that the consumer can feel the presence of the
drink in his/her mouth and safely swallow the beverage without it
entering the windpipe. This is necessary because the process of
peristalsis and the epiglottal protection of the windpipe start from
the back of the tongue.

Prior to the making of this product, all proteins & fats are pre-
digested completely, and the following substances are completely
removed from the organisms:

1. Any carbohydrate that raises blood sugar. These carbohydrates are
bad for induction. Fermentable fibers [such as inulin] are not removed
at all as they donąt count as net carbs and actually benefit health
during induction and otherwise. Simple sugars and digestible starches
are completely removed. Non-fermentable fibers [such as cellulose] are
also completely removed as they donąt offer much benefit other than to
add bulk to the stools. Non-fermentable carbohydrates not classified
as fibers are also removed completely.
2. Unhealthy amino acids
3. Glycerol [which is unnecessary calories and can be produced by the
body]
4. Saturated fatty acids [which contribute to atherosclerosis]
5. Trans fatty acids [which are far worse for health than saturated
fatty acids]
6. Any other substance that is known not to be beneficial to * or
necessary for * health.

All organisms used in this product * excluding tomatoes * are raw.
Tomatoes are boiled to bring out the lycopenes.

To make the product healthier, bad minerals [such as lead and
thallium] are completely removed [assuming any of them happen to
somehow be in the organisms]. To decrease blood pressure, sodium and
chloride are decreased [but not completely removed]. The sodium is
decreased as much as can be without leading to symptoms of sodium
deficiency. The chloride is decreased as much as possible without
causing any serious symptoms of chloride deficiency * the consumer
should still be able to safely perform tasks taken for granted * such
as driving or operating machinery. The decrease in chloride will help
balance out the acidity caused by ketosis. To help prevent kidney
stones during ketosis, extra potassium ions are added to the product.
The potassium is also alkaline and will further assist the body in
keeping itself non-acidic during ketosis. In addition, the extra
potassium is added because the body responds to chlorine deficiency by
making the kidney excrete potassium. So more potassium must be
consumed to make up for this loss.

The product has drinking water added to it to make it easier to drink.

This product is in small health-friendly, eco-friendly bottles. Five
bottles per day should be consumed. The bottles are in a package and
are of different sizes. The biggest bottle should be consumed in the
morning. The smallest should be consumed in the evening. In between,
are bottles of different sizes. Earlier in the day, the bigger bottles
should be consumed and as the day progresses the smaller bottles
should be consumed. This routine follows the saying łeat breakfast
link a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper˛ * except
the food is divided into 5 smaller meals instead of 3 bigger meals.
This is an extra benefit to diabetes patients who are following this
hypothetical diet.

It is important to understand that this product will initially not
satiate itąs users. However, once ketosis kicks in, appetite will
decrease and consumers will no longer feel the urge to eat.

To summarize, the organisms in the product are chopped to the
molecular level. Second, the proteins/fats are pre-digested all the
way down to their monomers [amino acids in the case of proteins, fatty
acids & glycerol in the case of fats]. Third, the undesirable
substances are removed. Finally, good microbes, potassium ions, and
drinking water are added.

There still will be fat in this product, it's just that they will be
broken down to fatty acids [and the glycerol portions removed] prior
to bottling. Many fatty acids are necessary and/or beneficial for
health. They also assist in the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins.

If this product did exist it would greatly benefit obese patients. I
just wish someone would start a company, get the company to make this
theoretical product, and sell it to the general public at a reasonable
price.

What would happen to me if I spent a year on a diet using only this
product and in the manner I described [5 bottles a day, first bottle
biggest, next bottles getting progressively smaller, the last bottle
smallest]? Anything unhealthy? I doubt it.

If only this product existed and was affordable, Iąd have no problem
living solely off it.


Regards,

Green Xenon


You neglect completely the pleasure of dining, the interaction of tastes
and textures, and you only address the macronutrients (carbs, fats,
proteins, minerals and vitamins) with no mention of bioflavonoids. In
fact, bioflavonoids, and anthocyanins are the new frontier of nutrition,
but it may not be the last.
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merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.

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Old April 1st, 2010, 02:13 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Mar 31, 11:18*pm, GreenXenon wrote:
On Mar 31, 6:27*pm, sometimers
wrote:





On 3/31/2010 6:38 PM, GreenXenon wrote:


On Mar 31, 11:35 am,
wrote:


Bill Gates started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. Apple
computers started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. Janet
Long started with nothing but cleverness and a good idea. If you have
a good idea and cleverness you to can create a similar success, if
you have faith in your idea. Any idea, no matter how good it is, without
cleverness, is doomed to failure.


How do I add cleverness to my idea?


If you have to ask......


Huh?



I am, frankly, weary with people who claim to have a great idea and
then expect others to bring their idea to fruition. Usually their
idea sucks. Can you prove that yours doesn't?


What about my idea sucks? It would provide all nutrients necessary to
live the longest and most healthy life possible.



According to whom? You have no studies, no expert endorsement,
nothing to back up that claim for the product you have yet to actually
create. I also think you'd have trouble finding credible
authorities that believe other parts of your theory, like all proteins
& fats need to be pre-digested completely. Which of course doesn't
mean you can't make some claims and sell it anyway, like many other
late night "miracle" infomercial products.


As for what sucks about the idea, how about this gem:

"This product may be extremely healthy to live off of. However, it
will
likely taste bad. To make this product consumable, oral equipment is
included. This apparatus includes a mouth piece – made of health-
friendly, eco-friendly material – that will coat the tongue, teeth,
gums, and pretty much the entire mouth of the consumer to protect
him/
her from perceiving the noxious flavors. The mouth piece is firm
enough to maintain its shape yet soft enough to be comfortable to the
consumer. The part of the device covering the tongue is thin and
especially soft, so that the consumer can feel the presence of the
drink in his/her mouth and safely swallow the beverage without it
entering the windpipe. "

Can you possibly be so stupid to think that people would buy this at
all, let alone the core of their diet?


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Old April 1st, 2010, 04:04 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
GreenXenon
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Default Healthiest Diet Possible

On Mar 31, 9:33*pm, Billy wrote:


You neglect completely the pleasure of dining, the interaction of tastes
and textures, and you only address the macronutrients (carbs, fats,
proteins, minerals and vitamins) with no mention of bioflavonoids. In
fact, bioflavonoids, and anthocyanins are the new frontier of nutrition,
but it may not be the last.



The product contains all phytonutrients -- including bioflavanoids and
anthocyanins.
  #15  
Old April 1st, 2010, 05:59 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
GreenXenon
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On Apr 1, 6:13*am, "
wrote:

On Mar 31, 11:18*pm, GreenXenon wrote:

What about my idea sucks? It would provide all nutrients necessary to
live the longest and most healthy life possible.




According to whom? *



Science.


You have no studies, no expert endorsement,
nothing to back up that claim for the product you have yet to actually
create. * *



Science proves that many vegetables, fruits, mushrooms, seaweed and
algae are beneficial to health.


I also think you'd have trouble finding credible
authorities that believe other parts of your theory, like all proteins
& fats need to be pre-digested completely.



If pre-digested, they will be absorbed without any amount [at all]
ending up in the stools. Also, after pre-digested it is easier to
remove the unwanted fatty acids.



As for what sucks about the idea, how about this gem:

"This product may be extremely healthy to live off of. However, it
will
likely taste bad. To make this product consumable, oral equipment is
included. This apparatus includes a mouth piece – made of health-
friendly, eco-friendly material – that will coat the tongue, teeth,
gums, and pretty much the entire mouth of the consumer to protect
him/
her from perceiving the noxious flavors. The mouth piece is firm
enough to maintain its shape yet soft enough to be comfortable to the
consumer. The part of the device covering the tongue is thin and
especially soft, so that the consumer can feel the presence of the
drink in his/her mouth and safely swallow the beverage without it
entering the windpipe. "

Can you possibly be so stupid to think that people would buy this at
all, let alone the core of their diet?



I wouldn't mind buying it if the price is reasonable [$1 per package]
and living off it.

Along with stretch, aerobic, and cardiovascular exercise, this product
will help you live the longest possible.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 06:09 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 1, 12:59*pm, GreenXenon wrote:
On Apr 1, 6:13*am, "
wrote:

On Mar 31, 11:18*pm, GreenXenon wrote:


What about my idea sucks? It would provide all nutrients necessary to
live the longest and most healthy life possible.


According to whom? *


Science.


Provide a single credible link to any medical authority that says
living off your crap will result in what you claim.





You have no studies, no expert endorsement,
nothing to back up that claim for the product you have yet to actually
create. * *


Science proves that many vegetables, fruits, mushrooms, seaweed and
algae are beneficial to health.


Uh, huh, which has zippo to do with your soylent green crap.




I also think you'd have trouble finding credible
authorities that believe other parts of your theory, like all proteins
& fats need to be pre-digested completely.


If pre-digested, they will be absorbed without any amount [at all]
ending up in the stools. Also, after pre-digested it is easier to
remove the unwanted fatty acids.


Again, kindly provide a single credible medical authority that backs
any of this up.










As for what sucks about the idea, how about this gem:


"This product may be extremely healthy to live off of. However, it
will
likely taste bad. To make this product consumable, oral equipment is
included. This apparatus includes a mouth piece – made of health-
friendly, eco-friendly material – that will coat the tongue, teeth,
gums, and pretty much the entire mouth of the consumer to protect
him/
her from perceiving the noxious flavors. The mouth piece is firm
enough to maintain its shape yet soft enough to be comfortable to the
consumer. The part of the device covering the tongue is thin and
especially soft, so that the consumer can feel the presence of the
drink in his/her mouth and safely swallow the beverage without it
entering the windpipe. "


Can you possibly be so stupid to think that people would buy this at
all, let alone the core of their diet?


I wouldn't mind buying it if the price is reasonable [$1 per package]
and living off it.


The go get a blender, make the crap and live off it. Just don't
expect it to be a viable business with a customer base of about 1.





Along with stretch, aerobic, and cardiovascular exercise, this product
will help you live the longest possible.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


So says you. Either you're a troll or else incredibly stupid.
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Old April 1st, 2010, 07:22 PM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On 4/1/2010 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Apr 1, 12:59 pm, wrote:


So says you. Either you're a troll or else incredibly stupid.


You forgot the most common moniker, nutcase.
  #18  
Old April 2nd, 2010, 04:46 AM posted to sci.med.nutrition,sci.life-extension,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Apr 1, 10:09*am, "
wrote:


On Apr 1, 12:59*pm, GreenXenon wrote:



I wouldn't mind buying it if the price is reasonable [$1 per package]
and living off it.




The go get a blender, make the crap and live off it. *



Blender is only one of the devices necessary. I need equipment to
remove the unnecessary and non-beneficial substances from the drink.
Besides, where am I going to build a greenhouse nearly big enough to
grow all the possible fruits, vegetables, mushrooms, seaweed, algae
and other non-animals sources of nutrients?

If some company were to do all of the above and sell the beverage and
oral equipment for only $1 per package, my life would be so much
easier.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenXenon View Post
Hi:

Please join my yahoo health group: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...Food_Possible/

I’m currently thinking of a hypothetical diet product that is vegan-
friendly and has all the nutrients of vegetables, fruits, herbs,
algae, seaweed, mushrooms and other non-animal organisms that are
necessary/beneficial for human health. It also contains beneficial and
essential microbes [such as probiotics]. All the aforementioned are in
amounts optimum for human health.

This product is completely organic and free of any pesticides,
synthetic ethylene and other man-made substances that compromise the
health of organisms and their human consumers. In addition, no
organisms used in the product are genetically-engineered. Equally
important is the soil and other conditions used to grow these
organisms is healthy, organic, and free of pollutants.

This product may be extremely healthy to live off of. However, it will
likely taste bad. To make this product consumable, oral equipment is
included. This apparatus includes a mouth piece – made of health-
friendly, eco-friendly material – that will coat the tongue, teeth,
gums, and pretty much the entire mouth of the consumer to protect him/
her from perceiving the noxious flavors. The mouth piece is firm
enough to maintain its shape yet soft enough to be comfortable to the
consumer. The part of the device covering the tongue is thin and
especially soft, so that the consumer can feel the presence of the
drink in his/her mouth and safely swallow the beverage without it
entering the windpipe. This is necessary because the process of
peristalsis and the epiglottal protection of the windpipe start from
the back of the tongue.

Prior to the making of this product, all proteins & fats are pre-
digested completely, and the following substances are completely
removed from the organisms:

1. Any carbohydrate that raises blood sugar. These carbohydrates are
bad for induction. Fermentable fibers [such as inulin] are not removed
at all as they don’t count as net carbs and actually benefit health
during induction and otherwise. Simple sugars and digestible starches
are completely removed. Non-fermentable fibers [such as cellulose] are
also completely removed as they don’t offer much benefit other than to
add bulk to the stools. Non-fermentable carbohydrates not classified
as fibers are also removed completely.
2. Unhealthy amino acids
3. Glycerol [which is unnecessary calories and can be produced by the
body]
4. Saturated fatty acids [which contribute to atherosclerosis]
5. Trans fatty acids [which are far worse for health than saturated
fatty acids]
6. Any other substance that is known not to be beneficial to – or
necessary for – health.

All organisms used in this product – excluding tomatoes – are raw.
Tomatoes are boiled to bring out the lycopenes.

To make the product healthier, bad minerals [such as lead and
thallium] are completely removed [assuming any of them happen to
somehow be in the organisms]. To decrease blood pressure, sodium and
chloride are decreased [but not completely removed]. The sodium is
decreased as much as can be without leading to symptoms of sodium
deficiency. The chloride is decreased as much as possible without
causing any serious symptoms of chloride deficiency – the consumer
should still be able to safely perform tasks taken for granted – such
as driving or operating machinery. The decrease in chloride will help
balance out the acidity caused by ketosis. To help prevent kidney
stones during ketosis, extra potassium ions are added to the product.
The potassium is also alkaline and will further assist the body in
keeping itself non-acidic during ketosis. In addition, the extra
potassium is added because the body responds to chlorine deficiency by
making the kidney excrete potassium. So more potassium must be
consumed to make up for this loss.

The product has drinking water added to it to make it easier to drink.

This product is in small health-friendly, eco-friendly bottles. Five
bottles per day should be consumed. The bottles are in a package and
are of different sizes. The biggest bottle should be consumed in the
morning. The smallest should be consumed in the evening. In between,
are bottles of different sizes. Earlier in the day, the bigger bottles
should be consumed and as the day progresses the smaller bottles
should be consumed. This routine follows the saying “eat breakfast
link a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper” – except
the food is divided into 5 smaller meals instead of 3 bigger meals.
This is an extra benefit to diabetes patients who are following this
hypothetical diet.

It is important to understand that this product will initially not
satiate it’s users. However, once ketosis kicks in, appetite will
decrease and consumers will no longer feel the urge to eat.

To summarize, the organisms in the product are chopped to the
molecular level. Second, the proteins/fats are pre-digested all the
way down to their monomers [amino acids in the case of proteins, fatty
acids & glycerol in the case of fats]. Third, the undesirable
substances are removed. Finally, good microbes, potassium ions, and
drinking water are added.

There still will be fat in this product, it's just that they will be
broken down to fatty acids [and the glycerol portions removed] prior
to bottling. Many fatty acids are necessary and/or beneficial for
health. They also assist in the absorption of fat-soluble vitamins.

If this product did exist it would greatly benefit obese patients. I
just wish someone would start a company, get the company to make this
theoretical product, and sell it to the general public at a reasonable
price.

What would happen to me if I spent a year on a diet using only this
product and in the manner I described [5 bottles a day, first bottle
biggest, next bottles getting progressively smaller, the last bottle
smallest]? Anything unhealthy? I doubt it.

If only this product existed and was affordable, I’d have no problem
living solely off it.


Regards,

Green Xenon
Hi,

Thanks for your sharing this points. Actually this is useful and harmless for some people and some people have some side effect using this.

Actually it depends on our Body.so, When we want to choose diet plan or any product we should take an Advice of Diet Consultant.

What do you think Friends?
 




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