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Old September 8th, 2004, 01:32 AM
Jumpin' Jack Flash
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Default Couple questions...

Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
them, rather than the kinds)?

What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
start to use artificial sweeteners?

Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
start all over again?

Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
with what's on that page?

Thanks again for all your help.

PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!
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Old September 8th, 2004, 02:13 AM
FOB
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In m,
Jumpin' Jack Flash stated
| Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
| all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
| you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
| them, rather than the kinds)?

Because most meat has no carbs, veggies have some, not all the same amount
so you need to stick those with lower carbs.

| What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
| drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
| start to use artificial sweeteners?

Yes, some people have various problems with aspartame, most get along with
sucralose aka Splenda. Sugar alcohols are a different thing, they have some
carbs though less than sugar and some have laxative effects.
|
| Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
| you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
| booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
| start all over again?

Ketostix can measure the ketones in your urine. Some people get bad breath
from ketosis or a strange taste in their mouth. The 20g is Atkins
induction, you can get into ketosis with more than 21. It is frankly
impossible to exactly count the carbs you eat, if you measure everything
you'll get more accurate but particularly with produce there are some
natural variations in carb content, however, ballparking it will do. Most
people will be in ketosis with 50 or even up to 100. In their Protein Power
book the Eades start you out at 30.
|
| Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
| page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
| with what's on that page?

Yes, if they are within the carb counts they should work. However,
commercial canned soups usually have thickeners, etc., that boost the carb
count. You could make your own soups with the approved meats and veggies.
|
| Thanks again for all your help.
|
| PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!


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Old September 8th, 2004, 02:13 AM
FOB
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In m,
Jumpin' Jack Flash stated
| Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
| all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
| you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
| them, rather than the kinds)?

Because most meat has no carbs, veggies have some, not all the same amount
so you need to stick those with lower carbs.

| What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
| drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
| start to use artificial sweeteners?

Yes, some people have various problems with aspartame, most get along with
sucralose aka Splenda. Sugar alcohols are a different thing, they have some
carbs though less than sugar and some have laxative effects.
|
| Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
| you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
| booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
| start all over again?

Ketostix can measure the ketones in your urine. Some people get bad breath
from ketosis or a strange taste in their mouth. The 20g is Atkins
induction, you can get into ketosis with more than 21. It is frankly
impossible to exactly count the carbs you eat, if you measure everything
you'll get more accurate but particularly with produce there are some
natural variations in carb content, however, ballparking it will do. Most
people will be in ketosis with 50 or even up to 100. In their Protein Power
book the Eades start you out at 30.
|
| Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
| page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
| with what's on that page?

Yes, if they are within the carb counts they should work. However,
commercial canned soups usually have thickeners, etc., that boost the carb
count. You could make your own soups with the approved meats and veggies.
|
| Thanks again for all your help.
|
| PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!


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Old September 8th, 2004, 03:36 AM
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"Jumpin' Jack Flash" wrote in message
m...
Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
them, rather than the kinds)?


the types of veggies are limited because some are high carb (like carrots or
onions)

What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
start to use artificial sweeteners?


splenda, but i don't drink coffee so i don't know how it is


Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
start all over again?

Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
with what's on that page?


i would make your own soup.


Thanks again for all your help.

PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!


wait till you get the book, read it then start. don't waste your time trying
to piece it together and not know what you're doing.


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Old September 8th, 2004, 03:36 AM
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"Jumpin' Jack Flash" wrote in message
m...
Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
them, rather than the kinds)?


the types of veggies are limited because some are high carb (like carrots or
onions)

What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
start to use artificial sweeteners?


splenda, but i don't drink coffee so i don't know how it is


Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
start all over again?

Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
with what's on that page?


i would make your own soup.


Thanks again for all your help.

PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!


wait till you get the book, read it then start. don't waste your time trying
to piece it together and not know what you're doing.


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Old September 8th, 2004, 03:36 AM
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"Jumpin' Jack Flash" wrote in message
m...
Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
them, rather than the kinds)?


the types of veggies are limited because some are high carb (like carrots or
onions)

What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
start to use artificial sweeteners?


splenda, but i don't drink coffee so i don't know how it is


Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
start all over again?

Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
with what's on that page?


i would make your own soup.


Thanks again for all your help.

PS. Yes, I do have a book on the way!


wait till you get the book, read it then start. don't waste your time trying
to piece it together and not know what you're doing.


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Old September 8th, 2004, 03:16 PM
DJ Delorie
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(Jumpin' Jack Flash) writes:
First of all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during
induction yet you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the
amounts of them, rather than the kinds)?


The purpose of Induction is to clean the stored carbs out of your
system. It is NOT to lose weight! Thus, the key factor is how many
carbs you eat, and nothing else. Meat has no carbs, so you can eat
all you want. Vegetables have carbs, so you have to limit them.

Once you're done with the two week Induction, your body has switched
to a fat-burning metabolism and you start OWL, where you start
limiting all foods you eat (calories) and can start increasing the
vegetables you eat (until your CCLL).

What about artificial sweeteners?


It depends on how they interact with you. Splenda and erythritol seem
to be the safe ones, but you have to try and see.

Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis?


You stop being hungry. Ketostix show pink. You've just lost 5-10 lbs
of water weight.

How is it that to start you have to be under 20g of carbs for a
couple of weeks?


Your body burns stored carbs at a given rate (your CCLL), and stores
about 100g in your liver. You need to flush that out to enter
ketosis. The more carbs you eat, the longer it takes to flush. Since
most people feel rotten during the initial transition, getting it over
quickly is a Good Thing.

So, 20g is enough to get proper nutrition through salad veggies, but
small enough to flush your liver quickly.

Will you be booted out if you have 21g?


No.

Are some soups OK? I don't see them on the Atkins acceptable foods
page, but some have pretty low carb counts...Should I stick exactly
with what's on that page?


You can eat things that are made from things on that page. For the
first two weeks, avoid anything artificial if you can, because some
artificial things have bad side effects for some people when LCing.
You want the first two weeks to go well so you'll be psyched about the
rest of the diet.
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Old September 8th, 2004, 07:21 PM
Jumpin' Jack Flash
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"FOB" wrote in message ...
In m,
Jumpin' Jack Flash stated
| Hey again guys, I have a couple more questions for you all. First of
| all, why are you allowed to eat meat liberally during induction yet
| you are limited in the vegetables that you can eat(the amounts of
| them, rather than the kinds)?

Because most meat has no carbs, veggies have some, not all the same amount
so you need to stick those with lower carbs.

| What about artificial sweeteners? Are they alright to use? Today, I
| drank my coffee black with nothing in it, but I'm curious if I can
| start to use artificial sweeteners?

Yes, some people have various problems with aspartame, most get along with
sucralose aka Splenda. Sugar alcohols are a different thing, they have some
carbs though less than sugar and some have laxative effects.
|
| Is there a way to tell if you are in Ketosis? How is it that to start
| you have to be under 20g of carbs for a couple of weeks? Will you be
| booted out if you have 21g? And if so, does that mean you have to
| start all over again?

Ketostix can measure the ketones in your urine. Some people get bad breath
from ketosis or a strange taste in their mouth. The 20g is Atkins
induction, you can get into ketosis with more than 21. It is frankly
impossible to exactly count the carbs you eat, if you measure everything
you'll get more accurate but particularly with produce there are some
natural variations in carb content, however, ballparking it will do. Most
people will be in ketosis with 50 or even up to 100. In their Protein Power
book the Eades start you out at 30.


Is there a loose timeline for how long it takes for your body to go
into ketosis mode? I've been 5 days of being under 20g of carbs, so I
wonder if I could be already. I've also been walking 3+ miles a day,
does exercise make a difference with how one goes into ketosis?
 




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