Exercise Ineffective for Weight Loss?

On Nov 1, 10:12 pm, Chris Malcolm wrote:


I don't think you need to worry. Having already left your bicycle and
started using the bus at your age it shouldn't take you too long to
either bloat into a hippo or shrivel into a lizard depending on your
constitution. If you can afford it, buy a car, then you'll have even
less time to wait before you degenerate from lack of exercise.

Huh?

My complaint is that degeneration takes decades...if we must be
mortal, well, let's just have done with it, then, no need to rot for
decades yet!

Still doing my three a week at the gym, but I'm afraid at a certain
point it's simply paddling against an ever increasing current....

--
Chris Malcolm DoD #205
IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
[http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

On Nov 1, 11:10 pm, Oldest guy alive
wrote:


So does that crap really help? I'm thinking about trying some to see
if I can buildup a bit of muscle.


Hard to say, as I didn't do things under controlled (laboratory)
conditions. I've gotten stronger since I first started using them mid-
summer, but would I have been stronger anyway? I think that at best I
made ever so slightly faster progress, and that's still quite
debatable.

My arms went up half an inch and I gain ten pounds of water weight
from the creatine, from what I can tell. It may have helped me pump
out an extra rep or two; I simply don't know. Being that a ~$10 tub
of creatine fruit punch lasts like a month, it's not a total waste of
money if those gains are indeed due to creatine. One thing I read
about creatine is that gains are supposedly kept even after
discontinuing use, unlike with something like steroids, provided one
still exercises and eats right, etc.

It's the same thing with protein shakes, though I'm even less sure
about them. I take them before, during, and after working out, as
advised by the book "Nutrient Timing," but there's simply no telling
whether I would have made the progress anyway, or am simply undergoing
a placebo effect, or if any progress due to these supplements are that
big of a deal in the first place! It sure was fun at first, however,
to mix up these "magic potions" and imagine that I was going to tear
the gym apart. =)

My recommendation: give 'em a try for fun if you have the money
(though creatine is particularly cheap). Don't expect much and you
might be slightly amused.

On Nov 2, 5:32 am, "ATP*" wrote:


There is also some evidence that intermittent fasting offers benefits. Robb
Wolf's blog and Art Devany's site have some interesting discussions.


Fasting?? What benefits?? I thought this issue was settled by now.
They used to say it help "clean out" your system -- even help sharpen
mental focus! Now the conventional wisdom is that you're hungry for a
reason (duh!) and if peak physical prowess is important to you, don't
do it.

On Nov 1, 1:21 pm, Michelle Steiner wrote:
In article .com,

wrote:
A nutritionist told me that back in 1976. It's been estimated that
you burn 100 Kcalories per mile (that would vary by weight, of
course). One pound of fat is about 3500 Kcalories. That means you
would have to run thirty five miles to burn up one pound of fat.

It's not just what happens during exercise - it's the resulting
changes in your body's metabolism and how it burns calories at all
times.

Of course. And just because you burn up one pound of fat, that doesn't
mean you lose a pound; there are other factors involved.

--
Support the troops: Bring them home ASAP.

Obviously every one is different and what works for me will be much
different than what works for someone else. body type is a big
factor. I run anywhere from 25-40 miles a week and can't lose weight
on that alone, I really need to keep the calorie count down, but not
too low.

Everyone needs to change some habits and see what works best for you,
it will take some time though.

Matt
http://www.recreationease.com

On Nov 6, 12:55 am, Michelle Steiner wrote:
I've lost about 20 pounds in the past eighteen months, fifteen of them
since May, and eight of those since August 11th, without any substantial
change in my diet.


Um, she had her penis and nutsack removed for pre-op preps. Nothing
magical about that weight loss.