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  #231  
Old September 15th, 2004, 12:55 PM
Carmen
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On 15-Sep-2004, Ignoramus19552
wrote:

Jenn
"you were on the internet in 1993? you must be old!"

G 1995 here. My oldest archived post is from a Fidonet
group, ported in from a BBS. Remember 2400 baud dial-up BBSes?
My husband *still* doesn't let me forget that my reaction at
first was "What do we need a computer for?" :-)

Yes, I participated in a few BBSes and also that Prodigy network
back in the early 90's. I friend turned me on to the net in '93.
I thought I was hot stuff when I got my 9600 baud modem


And yet some day we'll look back at whatever connection we're
running now (for us it's 3 meg/sec DSL) and marvel that we ever
managed to
get anything done with such a slow connect. :-)
I can't wait! I'm ready to be spoiled. G


My connection is about 768 kbps, and yet I consider it a marvel of
technology. It is good enough to download pirated movies... We just
bought a Philips hardware DivX player that plays .AVI DivX files
(and pretty much everything else). It looks like a DVD player.


I wouldn't know about that. I don't do pirated movies, because I
consider it stealing. Oddly enough, so does law enforcement. If for
no other reason it'd be a good idea to stop doing that because of the
potential legal ramifications. That son of yours, and your wife as
well might miss you if you got chucked into jail. They'd miss the
money if you just got a big fine too.

Take care,
Carmen
  #232  
Old September 15th, 2004, 01:39 PM
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Chris Braun wrote:

Today I did some experimenting at the gym. I walked on the treadmill
for one minute at 3.0 mph and counted my steps mentally: 111. I had
the pedometer on during that time and it registered exactly the same.
Then I reset the pedometer and the treadmill and walked for one mile
at the same 3.0 pace (20 minutes). I expected my stride length to
stay pretty constant since I was on a treadmill, so expected a step
count of approximately 20 * 111, or 2220. I got 2206 -- very close.
So the pedometer seems to be doing a fine job of counting steps.

Then I looked at the miles it said I'd walked, and it said .405! And
of course I'd walked exactly 1 mile. So I'm going to just use it for
counting steps and not make use of the mileage reading. (Also, I've
concluded that the 5000 or so steps yesterday was correct. Once I
started paying attention to how many steps are involved in just
general walking around, I realized they add up pretty quickly.)


I didn't see this when you posted it at first, so sorry for the late
reply. Check to see if there's a way to set the stride length. The
distance calculation is nonsense unless you do that.

To set mine, I walked ten steps, measured that distance with a tape
measure in inches, divided that number by 10 then again by 12 to get my
stride length: 2.25 feet in my case. I set that in my pedometer by
"moding" over to distance then hitting set and continuing to hit set as
it cycled through the choices. Then I paused and it accepted the new
setting and the mileage counter suddenly started making sense!

Dally

  #233  
Old September 15th, 2004, 01:39 PM
Dally
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Chris Braun wrote:

Today I did some experimenting at the gym. I walked on the treadmill
for one minute at 3.0 mph and counted my steps mentally: 111. I had
the pedometer on during that time and it registered exactly the same.
Then I reset the pedometer and the treadmill and walked for one mile
at the same 3.0 pace (20 minutes). I expected my stride length to
stay pretty constant since I was on a treadmill, so expected a step
count of approximately 20 * 111, or 2220. I got 2206 -- very close.
So the pedometer seems to be doing a fine job of counting steps.

Then I looked at the miles it said I'd walked, and it said .405! And
of course I'd walked exactly 1 mile. So I'm going to just use it for
counting steps and not make use of the mileage reading. (Also, I've
concluded that the 5000 or so steps yesterday was correct. Once I
started paying attention to how many steps are involved in just
general walking around, I realized they add up pretty quickly.)


I didn't see this when you posted it at first, so sorry for the late
reply. Check to see if there's a way to set the stride length. The
distance calculation is nonsense unless you do that.

To set mine, I walked ten steps, measured that distance with a tape
measure in inches, divided that number by 10 then again by 12 to get my
stride length: 2.25 feet in my case. I set that in my pedometer by
"moding" over to distance then hitting set and continuing to hit set as
it cycled through the choices. Then I paused and it accepted the new
setting and the mileage counter suddenly started making sense!

Dally

  #234  
Old September 15th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Dally
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Carmen wrote:

In the case of a child it must be so much more frightening. They
generally won't recognize when a mistake is being made even if they're
alert and oriented. Did you at least have someone who could act as
your back up, so you could get some rest?


I had a wonderful thing happen: my sister dropped everything and hopped
on a plane to get to our bedside. He had emergency surgery at midnight
on a Sunday night/Monday morning and I think my sister arrived within 24
hours. She's an experienced pediatric intensive care nurse and she gave
me the language and coaching I needed to interface with the hospital.

One of the HUGE problems I confronted was inadequate pain management,
particularly horrible in people who aren't articulate for themselves.
She taught me how to request pain meds, since they were ignoring a
semi-hysterical Mommy saying, "can't you do anything to help him?!" It
was ridiculously hard and a constant struggle, actually. I frequently
had to ask them several times. Once I fell asleep and they SKIPPED his
2 am morphine dose. I woke up around 5 am with him writhing in pain and
they apologized... but it was so hard to keep on top of them about it
even afterwards. He went twelve hours post surgery without pain meds -
the nurses on duty appeared to think he had had a laproscopic
appendectomy, which wasn't at all the case. I've read more about this
since and recognize that pain management is a weak spot for a lot of
hospitals. They gave it lip service, but underneath the surface there
was a combination of puritan ethics (let him suffer) and half-educated
guesses that he'd heal faster if he didn't have morphine (without
knowing where he was in the healing process or even what he was healing
from.)

I don't mean to give the idea that I had an adversarial relationship
with the nurses, but I do mean to tell you that I had to guard that
child constantly. There were IV alarms going off in his ear (I quickly
learned to deal with those), his bile suction tube kept getting gunked
up, and once his central line slipped and no one noticed that it had
been pulled out but ME - I had to INSIST on an x-ray to check it's
location. Also, people kept trying to give him meds by mouth, very
inappropriate for him. And people were ordering bloodwork willy-nilly,
blowing his veins for orders that should have expired, etc.

So my sister helped with my crash course in medicine for a day or two,
then went home and helped care for my older children. I was able to get
candy-stripers to stay with him two or three times when I went for food
or took a shower. Later, when he was out of the woods, my husband
stayed there and actually got to eat a tray of hospital food. I was
stunned - I had been there for DAYS with no one bringing me food or
coffee, and some passing orderly just GAVE him a tray of food. It
highlighted to me how badly cared for I was. I slept on a pull-out
chair (or curled up on the foot of his bed.) I had brought him to the
trauma center wrapped in a towel, and that towel became my pillow and my
shower-towel and my shawl for the entire hospital stay. (Ever read "The
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? I always bring a towel with me now.)

By the way, the main way I saved his life was by insisting that my two
year old's stomach bug was something serious. No one wanted to think
that a throwing-up two year old on a Sunday couldn't wait until Monday.
But he's my third kid and I knew it didn't feel right. So I
stubbornly insisted on a full workup. The white blood count alone got
him out of my doctor's office and into the regional trauma center's
pediatric surgery wing. (I recall driving to the trauma center too fast
carrying his abdominal x-rays and a note to get through triage... I
don't recall why we didn't take an ambulance.)

It turned out he had several perforations in his intestines and
full-blown peritonitis (with no fever - how weird is that?) They had to
pull his intestines out of his body and go through them inch by inch
sewing up holes or excising bad parts. We still don't know why. Our
best guess is that some pathogen ate up his intestinal material
specifically.

But he lived. A year later all his teeth rotted in his mouth (8 out of
8 baby molars/bicuspids were bad)... but he lived. This year, at age
5.5, I'd even call him sturdy.

I don't want any more medical adventures. But if they come my way I
know I could rise to the occasion and do what my child or husband or
parent needed me to do. Just like you did.

Dally

  #235  
Old September 15th, 2004, 02:42 PM
Dally
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Carmen wrote:

In the case of a child it must be so much more frightening. They
generally won't recognize when a mistake is being made even if they're
alert and oriented. Did you at least have someone who could act as
your back up, so you could get some rest?


I had a wonderful thing happen: my sister dropped everything and hopped
on a plane to get to our bedside. He had emergency surgery at midnight
on a Sunday night/Monday morning and I think my sister arrived within 24
hours. She's an experienced pediatric intensive care nurse and she gave
me the language and coaching I needed to interface with the hospital.

One of the HUGE problems I confronted was inadequate pain management,
particularly horrible in people who aren't articulate for themselves.
She taught me how to request pain meds, since they were ignoring a
semi-hysterical Mommy saying, "can't you do anything to help him?!" It
was ridiculously hard and a constant struggle, actually. I frequently
had to ask them several times. Once I fell asleep and they SKIPPED his
2 am morphine dose. I woke up around 5 am with him writhing in pain and
they apologized... but it was so hard to keep on top of them about it
even afterwards. He went twelve hours post surgery without pain meds -
the nurses on duty appeared to think he had had a laproscopic
appendectomy, which wasn't at all the case. I've read more about this
since and recognize that pain management is a weak spot for a lot of
hospitals. They gave it lip service, but underneath the surface there
was a combination of puritan ethics (let him suffer) and half-educated
guesses that he'd heal faster if he didn't have morphine (without
knowing where he was in the healing process or even what he was healing
from.)

I don't mean to give the idea that I had an adversarial relationship
with the nurses, but I do mean to tell you that I had to guard that
child constantly. There were IV alarms going off in his ear (I quickly
learned to deal with those), his bile suction tube kept getting gunked
up, and once his central line slipped and no one noticed that it had
been pulled out but ME - I had to INSIST on an x-ray to check it's
location. Also, people kept trying to give him meds by mouth, very
inappropriate for him. And people were ordering bloodwork willy-nilly,
blowing his veins for orders that should have expired, etc.

So my sister helped with my crash course in medicine for a day or two,
then went home and helped care for my older children. I was able to get
candy-stripers to stay with him two or three times when I went for food
or took a shower. Later, when he was out of the woods, my husband
stayed there and actually got to eat a tray of hospital food. I was
stunned - I had been there for DAYS with no one bringing me food or
coffee, and some passing orderly just GAVE him a tray of food. It
highlighted to me how badly cared for I was. I slept on a pull-out
chair (or curled up on the foot of his bed.) I had brought him to the
trauma center wrapped in a towel, and that towel became my pillow and my
shower-towel and my shawl for the entire hospital stay. (Ever read "The
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"? I always bring a towel with me now.)

By the way, the main way I saved his life was by insisting that my two
year old's stomach bug was something serious. No one wanted to think
that a throwing-up two year old on a Sunday couldn't wait until Monday.
But he's my third kid and I knew it didn't feel right. So I
stubbornly insisted on a full workup. The white blood count alone got
him out of my doctor's office and into the regional trauma center's
pediatric surgery wing. (I recall driving to the trauma center too fast
carrying his abdominal x-rays and a note to get through triage... I
don't recall why we didn't take an ambulance.)

It turned out he had several perforations in his intestines and
full-blown peritonitis (with no fever - how weird is that?) They had to
pull his intestines out of his body and go through them inch by inch
sewing up holes or excising bad parts. We still don't know why. Our
best guess is that some pathogen ate up his intestinal material
specifically.

But he lived. A year later all his teeth rotted in his mouth (8 out of
8 baby molars/bicuspids were bad)... but he lived. This year, at age
5.5, I'd even call him sturdy.

I don't want any more medical adventures. But if they come my way I
know I could rise to the occasion and do what my child or husband or
parent needed me to do. Just like you did.

Dally

  #236  
Old September 16th, 2004, 02:13 AM
Chris Braun
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:39:33 -0400, Dally wrote:

Chris Braun wrote:

Today I did some experimenting at the gym. I walked on the treadmill
for one minute at 3.0 mph and counted my steps mentally: 111. I had
the pedometer on during that time and it registered exactly the same.
Then I reset the pedometer and the treadmill and walked for one mile
at the same 3.0 pace (20 minutes). I expected my stride length to
stay pretty constant since I was on a treadmill, so expected a step
count of approximately 20 * 111, or 2220. I got 2206 -- very close.
So the pedometer seems to be doing a fine job of counting steps.

Then I looked at the miles it said I'd walked, and it said .405! And
of course I'd walked exactly 1 mile. So I'm going to just use it for
counting steps and not make use of the mileage reading. (Also, I've
concluded that the 5000 or so steps yesterday was correct. Once I
started paying attention to how many steps are involved in just
general walking around, I realized they add up pretty quickly.)


I didn't see this when you posted it at first, so sorry for the late
reply. Check to see if there's a way to set the stride length. The
distance calculation is nonsense unless you do that.


There isn't; it's a pretty simplistic device. But that's okay, as I'm
just using it to count steps. The pedometer's distance calculation
seems to assume a stride length of less than 1 foot, which is just
silly.


To set mine, I walked ten steps, measured that distance with a tape
measure in inches, divided that number by 10 then again by 12 to get my
stride length: 2.25 feet in my case. I set that in my pedometer by
"moding" over to distance then hitting set and continuing to hit set as
it cycled through the choices. Then I paused and it accepted the new
setting and the mileage counter suddenly started making sense!


In the gym experiment my stride length was 2.38, so at least I can do
the math if I want to figure mileage. But I'm just playing with step
counting for now.

Chris
  #237  
Old September 16th, 2004, 02:13 AM
Chris Braun
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 08:39:33 -0400, Dally wrote:

Chris Braun wrote:

Today I did some experimenting at the gym. I walked on the treadmill
for one minute at 3.0 mph and counted my steps mentally: 111. I had
the pedometer on during that time and it registered exactly the same.
Then I reset the pedometer and the treadmill and walked for one mile
at the same 3.0 pace (20 minutes). I expected my stride length to
stay pretty constant since I was on a treadmill, so expected a step
count of approximately 20 * 111, or 2220. I got 2206 -- very close.
So the pedometer seems to be doing a fine job of counting steps.

Then I looked at the miles it said I'd walked, and it said .405! And
of course I'd walked exactly 1 mile. So I'm going to just use it for
counting steps and not make use of the mileage reading. (Also, I've
concluded that the 5000 or so steps yesterday was correct. Once I
started paying attention to how many steps are involved in just
general walking around, I realized they add up pretty quickly.)


I didn't see this when you posted it at first, so sorry for the late
reply. Check to see if there's a way to set the stride length. The
distance calculation is nonsense unless you do that.


There isn't; it's a pretty simplistic device. But that's okay, as I'm
just using it to count steps. The pedometer's distance calculation
seems to assume a stride length of less than 1 foot, which is just
silly.


To set mine, I walked ten steps, measured that distance with a tape
measure in inches, divided that number by 10 then again by 12 to get my
stride length: 2.25 feet in my case. I set that in my pedometer by
"moding" over to distance then hitting set and continuing to hit set as
it cycled through the choices. Then I paused and it accepted the new
setting and the mileage counter suddenly started making sense!


In the gym experiment my stride length was 2.38, so at least I can do
the math if I want to figure mileage. But I'm just playing with step
counting for now.

Chris
 




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