RAFL - Fred - Jan 14th

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 01:24:25 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:40:12 -0800, Fred wrote:



On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 23:43:57 -0600, Joyce wrote:

hehehe - I got it right this time, my local TJ's does not carry any dried guava,
grava or grauva. I settled for another bag of the dried granny smith apple
slices, forgot how much I liked them and a nice change of pace. I looked for
kasha also, couldn't find it. Is this something you also purchased at Trader
Joe's? I DID find the oatmeal though, made a batch in the crockpot (now have a
huge amount in the fridge) and found it absolutely wonderful!

They do have different items in their different locales. No, kasha
can be hand at some local markets with rice or couscous or probably
health food stores. Also known as buckwheat groats. Glad you liked
the oatmeal. It is good stuff - sticks to ribs and it heart-healhty.
And I eat it with just milk/soymilk without any additional sweetening
most times. Sometimes raisins.

Ok, I'll look for kasha when I'm in and out of the groceries. I don't have a
health food store around me - at least not one I'm aware of. I did buy a box of
whole wheat couscous the other day - lots of fiber in it which should bring the
points down ... at least by 1. G I don't add any sugar to my oatmeal either,
but have only eaten those *add water to cup* ones. The McCanns came out to the
same consistency (which was what I had hoped for). I doubt I would add anything
other than a little bit of milk, maybe some cinnamon (cuz I love the stuff). Oh -
forgot to tell you ... I looked closer at the can when at home. On one side it
says Steel Cut Oatmeal - with the Oatmeal in huge letters. Then when I spun it a
little more it says Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal - with the Irish Oatmeal in those huge
letters. Must be where my confusion came into play the first time at the store.
The cans were sitting next to each other, but with one displayed differently, I
thought they were different products. Silly me!

I promise nothing with the kasha, it seems it is too strong a flavor
for some folks (STAN!!! (G)). Yes, I noticed the McCann Can looked
fine from both sides but is just different enough.

I've also journaled faithfully since Friday, as well as making the trek to the
basement treadmill. Water intake has definitely increased as I am making a much
more concious effort in that department. Yeah for us for doing what we know
works. From your most recent weight update, the point has been proven ... I have
to wait until Friday to be official - but so far the scale has consistently shown
a downward trend.

It works when we work - simple. Tonight I probably reacted to the
good results and ate too much candy and then some Trader Joe gorp
(sigh)

hehehe - I think we all do that. If we're gonna splurge, it's gonna be AFTER we
weigh in. Tonite I'm happily munching away on one points worth of dried apple
rings. They take me forever to eat. G

Yes, one member of the WW group has free-day after WI. She eats
anything and as much as she wants. He release mechanism and since she
has lost over 90 lbs, I guess it can work.

Joyce

You're shrinking....

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
hehehe, and down again the next day. I swear it's another one of those
head games
we play with ourselves. Admittedly, I am guilty of the same. I'm feeling
so much
better this week - seeing the scale continually move downwards. And today
I
dragged out a pair of sweatpants from last year, size womens medium. They
have no
elastic waist, are drawstring. Last year they fit great, but I didn't
have to tie
the string to keep them at my waist area (much easier this way when
running
constantly to the potty). Today ... dang things won't stay up. I don't
ever
remember needing a size small!

Joyce

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:05:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

yeah, I am sure you are right. Not a problem though, I bet I am back to
158
or worse in the morning....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ok. that makes sense and I do understand. I'm warning ya though, once
you
see it
you aren't going to be happy unless you can stick around there. I
think
that's my
current problem. I hadn't been unhappy in the 130-133 zone ... but
after
seeing
that 129 or below a few times, it is distressing to move back to the
130-133's.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh, cause it has been (on my average) right around 157.5 for six
weeks!
And
I just want to see 155. Just once. ... . And I could!! if I would
quit
with the choice of eating a couple of chocolates every day. Or ice
cream
(despite being low fat ice cream) Every night.
Whine.
I am not replacing the chocolates when they are gone, that difference
alone
will take those last 2.5 off me ...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Now how can you possibly feel like you are struggling when that
weight
keeps
dipping? G But yes, it is hard to move away from those holiday
treats
and get
back into the habit of journaling. I know I do better when I
journal,
almost too
good (have noticed I tend to not eat enough when I journal) - but I
also
know I
can survive if I don't ... kind of double edged sword. I do think
the
exercise
(or lack thereof) is what has me a bit off track lately - just plain
ol'
laziness
on my part. But I am working back into it strongly, and happily -
and
am
finding
it really does help with the self-imposed mind games.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:21:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It is sure hard to get out of that holiday mode right?
I feel like I am struggling down here too. I want to get to 155,
it
is
definately possible and achievable for me. I make a decision to
journal,
then I don't do it. Dang. I am even a member of a journaling
group,
and
Still.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I also was much better last season, but have wondered if it was
due
more
to the
fact that I was still on my way to goal. This year goal had been
reached,
incentive to maintain is so much different than incentive to
continue
in
the
losing mode. I also wonder if my body then was still used to the
losing
game - as
far as probably requiring more calories than it currently does?
Like
you
though,
I'm still under goal - just need to get back to practicing those
better
habits and
self control.

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:10:31 -0800, Fred

wrote:

I guess I was better last season when things were still fresh in
mind.
I lost over those holidays. And I know that was was overstuffed
this
year. But I am still undergoal and felt so good skiing and
biking
last weekend that I cannot lose sight of that when I sit down
and
EAT.
Control, control......

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:53:59 GMT, "SPOONS"
wrote:

Hi Fred,

They say the average person gains 7 lbs over the holidays so
don't
worry
about your gain, you're still way under your goal weight.
Which I
might
add
that a 60 lbs loss is AMAZING!!!!

SPOONS
Total Loss: 22 lbs


"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
maybe she will want to assist in your efforts to lose, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
The stage is Lesanne's!!!! (thunderous applause)

Greek Chorus is cued (ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

UP 1.6 (since the last 3 weeks were guesses, this may
still
be
Christmas/New Years affect or just terrible eating
on-going)

Current Weight 160.00 (even)

Too much snacking. Or too much exercise leading to too
much
muscle
or
leading to too much snacking (G)


Take it away, Texas.......

Fred
219.2/160./164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:35:21 -0800, Fred wrote:


Ok, I'll look for kasha when I'm in and out of the groceries. I don't have a
health food store around me - at least not one I'm aware of. I did buy a box of
whole wheat couscous the other day - lots of fiber in it which should bring the
points down ... at least by 1. G I don't add any sugar to my oatmeal either,
but have only eaten those *add water to cup* ones. The McCanns came out to the
same consistency (which was what I had hoped for). I doubt I would add anything
other than a little bit of milk, maybe some cinnamon (cuz I love the stuff). Oh -
forgot to tell you ... I looked closer at the can when at home. On one side it
says Steel Cut Oatmeal - with the Oatmeal in huge letters. Then when I spun it a
little more it says Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal - with the Irish Oatmeal in those huge
letters. Must be where my confusion came into play the first time at the store.
The cans were sitting next to each other, but with one displayed differently, I
thought they were different products. Silly me!

I promise nothing with the kasha, it seems it is too strong a flavor
for some folks (STAN!!! (G)). Yes, I noticed the McCann Can looked
fine from both sides but is just different enough.

Well, I'm no longer afraid to try new things. The worse thing that can happen is
no one will like it, I'm out a few $$$ and the garbage can will be fed. No
biggie. I went through this with oatmeal, and remember it with couscous -
absolutely hated the stuff. I tried a different brand (of both) and found them to
be very good. Maybe the kasha will be the same. Flying it past the family can be
a bit tricky though. I've finally convinced hub that squash is really pretty
good. g

I've also journaled faithfully since Friday, as well as making the trek to the
basement treadmill. Water intake has definitely increased as I am making a much
more concious effort in that department. Yeah for us for doing what we know
works. From your most recent weight update, the point has been proven ... I have
to wait until Friday to be official - but so far the scale has consistently shown
a downward trend.

It works when we work - simple. Tonight I probably reacted to the
good results and ate too much candy and then some Trader Joe gorp
(sigh)

hehehe - I think we all do that. If we're gonna splurge, it's gonna be AFTER we
weigh in. Tonite I'm happily munching away on one points worth of dried apple
rings. They take me forever to eat. G

Yes, one member of the WW group has free-day after WI. She eats
anything and as much as she wants. He release mechanism and since she
has lost over 90 lbs, I guess it can work.

I did that also when I was on the losing end of things, tend to TRY to keep things
more constant while maintaining. BUT (there's always a *but*) most planned
splurges will always fall in over the week-end. Guess it's a mind game thing, but
I still feel it gives me time to recover. G

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:46:21 -0600, Joyce wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 06:35:21 -0800, Fred wrote:


Ok, I'll look for kasha when I'm in and out of the groceries. I don't have a
health food store around me - at least not one I'm aware of. I did buy a box of
whole wheat couscous the other day - lots of fiber in it which should bring the
points down ... at least by 1. G I don't add any sugar to my oatmeal either,
but have only eaten those *add water to cup* ones. The McCanns came out to the
same consistency (which was what I had hoped for). I doubt I would add anything
other than a little bit of milk, maybe some cinnamon (cuz I love the stuff). Oh -
forgot to tell you ... I looked closer at the can when at home. On one side it
says Steel Cut Oatmeal - with the Oatmeal in huge letters. Then when I spun it a
little more it says Steel Cut Irish Oatmeal - with the Irish Oatmeal in those huge
letters. Must be where my confusion came into play the first time at the store.
The cans were sitting next to each other, but with one displayed differently, I
thought they were different products. Silly me!

I promise nothing with the kasha, it seems it is too strong a flavor
for some folks (STAN!!! (G)). Yes, I noticed the McCann Can looked
fine from both sides but is just different enough.

Well, I'm no longer afraid to try new things. The worse thing that can happen is
no one will like it, I'm out a few $$$ and the garbage can will be fed. No
biggie. I went through this with oatmeal, and remember it with couscous -
absolutely hated the stuff. I tried a different brand (of both) and found them to
be very good. Maybe the kasha will be the same. Flying it past the family can be
a bit tricky though. I've finally convinced hub that squash is really pretty
good. g

As I wrote elsewhere, tried another brand of steel cut - no where near
as good as the McCann's.

You might want to make the kasha with chicken broth or beef broth.
Some sauteed onions or mushrooms or similar. I like it plain but it
is full flavored. But I do occasionally curry it, or the onion route
or under the shrimp/chicken stir-fry results.

I've also journaled faithfully since Friday, as well as making the trek to the
basement treadmill. Water intake has definitely increased as I am making a much
more concious effort in that department. Yeah for us for doing what we know
works. From your most recent weight update, the point has been proven ... I have
to wait until Friday to be official - but so far the scale has consistently shown
a downward trend.

It works when we work - simple. Tonight I probably reacted to the
good results and ate too much candy and then some Trader Joe gorp
(sigh)

hehehe - I think we all do that. If we're gonna splurge, it's gonna be AFTER we
weigh in. Tonite I'm happily munching away on one points worth of dried apple
rings. They take me forever to eat. G

Yes, one member of the WW group has free-day after WI. She eats
anything and as much as she wants. He release mechanism and since she
has lost over 90 lbs, I guess it can work.

I did that also when I was on the losing end of things, tend to TRY to keep things
more constant while maintaining. BUT (there's always a *but*) most planned
splurges will always fall in over the week-end. Guess it's a mind game thing, but
I still feel it gives me time to recover. G

Joyce

I've never eaten kasha, but your broth, onions & mushrooms sure sounds good.
Guess I'll have to look for some.

I'm making my version of quick soup for lunch today. Tuna fish, tomatoes,
chicken broth, french sliced green beans. Threw in some freeze dried red
onions (Light house brand - I love them!), and some Light house brand salad
herbs. I love all of the Lighthouse brand freeze dried stuff. Ginger,
onions, salad herbs, etc. I keep some on hand all the time for quick
seasonings.

--
Donna in Idaho!
Project Linus Boise/SW Idaho Coordinator
Website: http://donnakwilts.tripod.com/
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"Fred" wrote in message
...


You might want to make the kasha with chicken broth or beef broth.
Some sauteed onions or mushrooms or similar. I like it plain but it
is full flavored. But I do occasionally curry it, or the onion route
or under the shrimp/chicken stir-fry results.

Well, I did fail to sell Stan, so it is definitely not just a bland
starch.

Is LightHouse some special brand? General markets? I've never been
into hot tuna unless it was fresh fish. Tuna casseroles, etc - no.
Friends use to bring it on camping trips - yech! (G) Tuna out of a
can, fine. And this past summer we discovered the new stuff in the
foil pouch - except lunch on the trail.

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 19:51:06 GMT, "Donna in Idaho \(remove invalid\)"
wrote:

I've never eaten kasha, but your broth, onions & mushrooms sure sounds good.
Guess I'll have to look for some.

I'm making my version of quick soup for lunch today. Tuna fish, tomatoes,
chicken broth, french sliced green beans. Threw in some freeze dried red
onions (Light house brand - I love them!), and some Light house brand salad
herbs. I love all of the Lighthouse brand freeze dried stuff. Ginger,
onions, salad herbs, etc. I keep some on hand all the time for quick
seasonings.

LOL! Evidentally, and I never noticed. This is something I had not even
considered, since the scale hasn't moved more than a few teeny pounds in both
directions ... for a long time. But possibly the addition of exercising has made
the body change?

The sweats are still comfy though, so I'm keeping them. I just have to yank them
up more often. G

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:17:43 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

You're shrinking....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
hehehe, and down again the next day. I swear it's another one of those
head games
we play with ourselves. Admittedly, I am guilty of the same. I'm feeling
so much
better this week - seeing the scale continually move downwards. And today
I
dragged out a pair of sweatpants from last year, size womens medium. They
have no
elastic waist, are drawstring. Last year they fit great, but I didn't
have to tie
the string to keep them at my waist area (much easier this way when
running
constantly to the potty). Today ... dang things won't stay up. I don't
ever
remember needing a size small!

Joyce

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:05:50 GMT, "Lesanne" wrote:

yeah, I am sure you are right. Not a problem though, I bet I am back to
158
or worse in the morning....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ok. that makes sense and I do understand. I'm warning ya though, once
you
see it
you aren't going to be happy unless you can stick around there. I
think
that's my
current problem. I hadn't been unhappy in the 130-133 zone ... but
after
seeing
that 129 or below a few times, it is distressing to move back to the
130-133's.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh, cause it has been (on my average) right around 157.5 for six
weeks!
And
I just want to see 155. Just once. ... . And I could!! if I would
quit
with the choice of eating a couple of chocolates every day. Or ice
cream
(despite being low fat ice cream) Every night.
Whine.
I am not replacing the chocolates when they are gone, that difference
alone
will take those last 2.5 off me ...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Now how can you possibly feel like you are struggling when that
weight
keeps
dipping? G But yes, it is hard to move away from those holiday
treats
and get
back into the habit of journaling. I know I do better when I
journal,
almost too
good (have noticed I tend to not eat enough when I journal) - but I
also
know I
can survive if I don't ... kind of double edged sword. I do think
the
exercise
(or lack thereof) is what has me a bit off track lately - just plain
ol'
laziness
on my part. But I am working back into it strongly, and happily -
and
am
finding
it really does help with the self-imposed mind games.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:21:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

It is sure hard to get out of that holiday mode right?
I feel like I am struggling down here too. I want to get to 155,
it
is
definately possible and achievable for me. I make a decision to
journal,
then I don't do it. Dang. I am even a member of a journaling
group,
and
Still.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I also was much better last season, but have wondered if it was
due
more
to the
fact that I was still on my way to goal. This year goal had been
reached,
incentive to maintain is so much different than incentive to
continue
in
the
losing mode. I also wonder if my body then was still used to the
losing
game - as
far as probably requiring more calories than it currently does?
Like
you
though,
I'm still under goal - just need to get back to practicing those
better
habits and
self control.

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:10:31 -0800, Fred

wrote:

I guess I was better last season when things were still fresh in
mind.
I lost over those holidays. And I know that was was overstuffed
this
year. But I am still undergoal and felt so good skiing and
biking
last weekend that I cannot lose sight of that when I sit down
and
EAT.
Control, control......

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:53:59 GMT, "SPOONS"
wrote:

Hi Fred,

They say the average person gains 7 lbs over the holidays so
don't
worry
about your gain, you're still way under your goal weight.
Which I
might
add
that a 60 lbs loss is AMAZING!!!!

SPOONS
Total Loss: 22 lbs


"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
maybe she will want to assist in your efforts to lose, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
The stage is Lesanne's!!!! (thunderous applause)

Greek Chorus is cued (ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

UP 1.6 (since the last 3 weeks were guesses, this may
still
be
Christmas/New Years affect or just terrible eating
on-going)

Current Weight 160.00 (even)

Too much snacking. Or too much exercise leading to too
much
muscle
or
leading to too much snacking (G)


Take it away, Texas.......

Fred
219.2/160./164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 10:12:37 -0800, Fred wrote:

I promise nothing with the kasha, it seems it is too strong a flavor
for some folks (STAN!!! (G)). Yes, I noticed the McCann Can looked
fine from both sides but is just different enough.

Well, I'm no longer afraid to try new things. The worse thing that can happen is
no one will like it, I'm out a few $$$ and the garbage can will be fed. No
biggie. I went through this with oatmeal, and remember it with couscous -
absolutely hated the stuff. I tried a different brand (of both) and found them to
be very good. Maybe the kasha will be the same. Flying it past the family can be
a bit tricky though. I've finally convinced hub that squash is really pretty
good. g

As I wrote elsewhere, tried another brand of steel cut - no where near
as good as the McCann's.

You might want to make the kasha with chicken broth or beef broth.
Some sauteed onions or mushrooms or similar. I like it plain but it
is full flavored. But I do occasionally curry it, or the onion route
or under the shrimp/chicken stir-fry results.

I still haven't hit a store yet, but will write down these kasha tips so I am
prepared.

Joyce

I'm sure over time the body adjusts to the weight loss. Sort of a catch-up
routine. I know that when I first joined curves I had already lost 20+
pounds without doing any exercise other than walking and water aerobics for
a month. I lost over 7 inches the first month. Since your weight has not
changed much over the past few months maybe it's time to check your
measurements. I bet you've redistributed the remaining weight.

"Joyce" wrote in message
...
LOL! Evidentally, and I never noticed. This is something I had not even
considered, since the scale hasn't moved more than a few teeny pounds in
both
directions ... for a long time. But possibly the addition of exercising
has made
the body change?

The sweats are still comfy though, so I'm keeping them. I just have to
yank them
up more often. G

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:17:43 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

You're shrinking....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
hehehe, and down again the next day. I swear it's another one of those
head games
we play with ourselves. Admittedly, I am guilty of the same. I'm
feeling
so much
better this week - seeing the scale continually move downwards. And
today
I
dragged out a pair of sweatpants from last year, size womens medium.
They
have no
elastic waist, are drawstring. Last year they fit great, but I didn't
have to tie
the string to keep them at my waist area (much easier this way when
running
constantly to the potty). Today ... dang things won't stay up. I
don't
ever
remember needing a size small!

Joyce

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:05:50 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

yeah, I am sure you are right. Not a problem though, I bet I am back
to
158
or worse in the morning....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ok. that makes sense and I do understand. I'm warning ya though,
once
you
see it
you aren't going to be happy unless you can stick around there. I
think
that's my
current problem. I hadn't been unhappy in the 130-133 zone ... but
after
seeing
that 129 or below a few times, it is distressing to move back to the
130-133's.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh, cause it has been (on my average) right around 157.5 for six
weeks!
And
I just want to see 155. Just once. ... . And I could!! if I
would
quit
with the choice of eating a couple of chocolates every day. Or ice
cream
(despite being low fat ice cream) Every night.
Whine.
I am not replacing the chocolates when they are gone, that
difference
alone
will take those last 2.5 off me ...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Now how can you possibly feel like you are struggling when that
weight
keeps
dipping? G But yes, it is hard to move away from those holiday
treats
and get
back into the habit of journaling. I know I do better when I
journal,
almost too
good (have noticed I tend to not eat enough when I journal) - but
I
also
know I
can survive if I don't ... kind of double edged sword. I do
think
the
exercise
(or lack thereof) is what has me a bit off track lately - just
plain
ol'
laziness
on my part. But I am working back into it strongly, and
happily -
and
am
finding
it really does help with the self-imposed mind games.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:21:01 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

It is sure hard to get out of that holiday mode right?
I feel like I am struggling down here too. I want to get to
155,
it
is
definately possible and achievable for me. I make a decision to
journal,
then I don't do it. Dang. I am even a member of a journaling
group,
and
Still.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I also was much better last season, but have wondered if it
was
due
more
to the
fact that I was still on my way to goal. This year goal had
been
reached,
incentive to maintain is so much different than incentive to
continue
in
the
losing mode. I also wonder if my body then was still used to
the
losing
game - as
far as probably requiring more calories than it currently
does?
Like
you
though,
I'm still under goal - just need to get back to practicing
those
better
habits and
self control.

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:10:31 -0800, Fred

wrote:

I guess I was better last season when things were still fresh
in
mind.
I lost over those holidays. And I know that was was
overstuffed
this
year. But I am still undergoal and felt so good skiing and
biking
last weekend that I cannot lose sight of that when I sit down
and
EAT.
Control, control......

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:53:59 GMT, "SPOONS"
wrote:

Hi Fred,

They say the average person gains 7 lbs over the holidays so
don't
worry
about your gain, you're still way under your goal weight.
Which I
might
add
that a 60 lbs loss is AMAZING!!!!

SPOONS
Total Loss: 22 lbs


"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
maybe she will want to assist in your efforts to lose, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
The stage is Lesanne's!!!! (thunderous applause)

Greek Chorus is cued (ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

UP 1.6 (since the last 3 weeks were guesses, this may
still
be
Christmas/New Years affect or just terrible eating
on-going)

Current Weight 160.00 (even)

Too much snacking. Or too much exercise leading to too
much
muscle
or
leading to too much snacking (G)


Take it away, Texas.......

Fred
219.2/160./164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002

I do have to take some new measurements. Was checking out my old stat sheets
earlier this evening, notice that nothing has been updated since the end of June.
I am willing to bet that while my weight has held rather steady (within 5 pounds)
the measurements have definitely changed. What I did find interesting though, is
the last time I did record measurements - everything had decreased except those
calf muscles ... which actually showed an increase. Suppose it could be my
measuring, but I am willing to bet it's due more to the increased walking and
building of leg muscles. Now to get some weights and work on the upper arms. G

Joyce

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 04:20:15 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

I'm sure over time the body adjusts to the weight loss. Sort of a catch-up
routine. I know that when I first joined curves I had already lost 20+
pounds without doing any exercise other than walking and water aerobics for
a month. I lost over 7 inches the first month. Since your weight has not
changed much over the past few months maybe it's time to check your
measurements. I bet you've redistributed the remaining weight.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
LOL! Evidentally, and I never noticed. This is something I had not even
considered, since the scale hasn't moved more than a few teeny pounds in
both
directions ... for a long time. But possibly the addition of exercising
has made
the body change?

The sweats are still comfy though, so I'm keeping them. I just have to
yank them
up more often. G

Joyce

On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 02:17:43 GMT, "Laura" wrote:

You're shrinking....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
hehehe, and down again the next day. I swear it's another one of those
head games
we play with ourselves. Admittedly, I am guilty of the same. I'm
feeling
so much
better this week - seeing the scale continually move downwards. And
today
I
dragged out a pair of sweatpants from last year, size womens medium.
They
have no
elastic waist, are drawstring. Last year they fit great, but I didn't
have to tie
the string to keep them at my waist area (much easier this way when
running
constantly to the potty). Today ... dang things won't stay up. I
don't
ever
remember needing a size small!

Joyce

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 00:05:50 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

yeah, I am sure you are right. Not a problem though, I bet I am back
to
158
or worse in the morning....

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Ok. that makes sense and I do understand. I'm warning ya though,
once
you
see it
you aren't going to be happy unless you can stick around there. I
think
that's my
current problem. I hadn't been unhappy in the 130-133 zone ... but
after
seeing
that 129 or below a few times, it is distressing to move back to the
130-133's.

Joyce

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 19:17:57 GMT, "Lesanne"
wrote:

Oh, cause it has been (on my average) right around 157.5 for six
weeks!
And
I just want to see 155. Just once. ... . And I could!! if I
would
quit
with the choice of eating a couple of chocolates every day. Or ice
cream
(despite being low fat ice cream) Every night.
Whine.
I am not replacing the chocolates when they are gone, that
difference
alone
will take those last 2.5 off me ...

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
Now how can you possibly feel like you are struggling when that
weight
keeps
dipping? G But yes, it is hard to move away from those holiday
treats
and get
back into the habit of journaling. I know I do better when I
journal,
almost too
good (have noticed I tend to not eat enough when I journal) - but
I
also
know I
can survive if I don't ... kind of double edged sword. I do
think
the
exercise
(or lack thereof) is what has me a bit off track lately - just
plain
ol'
laziness
on my part. But I am working back into it strongly, and
happily -
and
am
finding
it really does help with the self-imposed mind games.

Joyce

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:21:01 GMT, "Lesanne"

wrote:

It is sure hard to get out of that holiday mode right?
I feel like I am struggling down here too. I want to get to
155,
it
is
definately possible and achievable for me. I make a decision to
journal,
then I don't do it. Dang. I am even a member of a journaling
group,
and
Still.

"Joyce" wrote in message
.. .
I also was much better last season, but have wondered if it
was
due
more
to the
fact that I was still on my way to goal. This year goal had
been
reached,
incentive to maintain is so much different than incentive to
continue
in
the
losing mode. I also wonder if my body then was still used to
the
losing
game - as
far as probably requiring more calories than it currently
does?
Like
you
though,
I'm still under goal - just need to get back to practicing
those
better
habits and
self control.

Joyce

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 07:10:31 -0800, Fred

wrote:

I guess I was better last season when things were still fresh
in
mind.
I lost over those holidays. And I know that was was
overstuffed
this
year. But I am still undergoal and felt so good skiing and
biking
last weekend that I cannot lose sight of that when I sit down
and
EAT.
Control, control......

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:53:59 GMT, "SPOONS"
wrote:

Hi Fred,

They say the average person gains 7 lbs over the holidays so
don't
worry
about your gain, you're still way under your goal weight.
Which I
might
add
that a 60 lbs loss is AMAZING!!!!

SPOONS
Total Loss: 22 lbs


"Miss Violette" wrote in message
...
maybe she will want to assist in your efforts to lose, Lee
Fred wrote in message
...
The stage is Lesanne's!!!! (thunderous applause)

Greek Chorus is cued (ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh)

UP 1.6 (since the last 3 weeks were guesses, this may
still
be
Christmas/New Years affect or just terrible eating
on-going)

Current Weight 160.00 (even)

Too much snacking. Or too much exercise leading to too
much
muscle
or
leading to too much snacking (G)


Take it away, Texas.......

Fred
219.2/160./164.0 (Lifetime)
Started WW: Oct 29, 2002