Atkins Diet

MartB wrote:

Low carbing doesn't work for me, even worse I gain weight on it.
When I eat 1600 kcals a day and exercise and go under my drs supervision, I
still gain weight.
I am male and 200 pounds in weight, and even take thyroxin to try to help
with a bit of weight loss.
I expect that it is down to the individual component foods that we eat that
really matters.

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

Dally

While, within walking distance of my flat, I can name six bakeries,
including which ones are the best and what kind of bread to buy at each
one
for best results, two organic shops, one open air market, three
greengrocers
(grocer specializing in fruits and vegetables only, seems there is no US
word for it), a couple of butchers, a couple of fish merchants... This
doesn't prevent my supermarkets from carrying fruits&vegetables (including
organic ones) or bread. But if I want quality, I will go shop to the
bakery
and greengrocer for what they specialize in.
This means that in order to sell anything, the supermarket has to maintain
a
decent level of quality because of the competition from specialized shops.
Since we passed a law regulating who can call himself a "baker" (only
applies to people who knead their own bread on the spot), the quality of
the
bakeries has gone up, but so has the quality of supermarket bread. This
also
means that shopping for greens and fruits is a culturally established
activity - after all, there are shops selling *only* these (and they're
not
for health conscious rich people, greengrocers actually used to be for
poor
folks).
I think that in the USA, the destruction of traditionnal eating and food
by
the industry has played a major role in the rise of obesity levels. The
rest
of the world has gone on that road slower, because obesity has to go
against
culturally established eating patterns.


Wow, there's nothing like painting with one huge brush stroke one big
stereotype. I live in the US (downtown San Francisco to be exact), and I can
name the bakeries, fish mongers, organic groceries, butchers, etc, etc, etc.

Next.....

Martha
who realizes that many people outside the US don't understand that not all
of the US is exactly the same...it's a bigger country than they're used to,
after all...

While, within walking distance of my flat, I can name six bakeries,
including which ones are the best and what kind of bread to buy at each
one
for best results, two organic shops, one open air market, three
greengrocers
(grocer specializing in fruits and vegetables only, seems there is no US
word for it), a couple of butchers, a couple of fish merchants... This
doesn't prevent my supermarkets from carrying fruits&vegetables (including
organic ones) or bread. But if I want quality, I will go shop to the
bakery
and greengrocer for what they specialize in.
This means that in order to sell anything, the supermarket has to maintain
a
decent level of quality because of the competition from specialized shops.
Since we passed a law regulating who can call himself a "baker" (only
applies to people who knead their own bread on the spot), the quality of
the
bakeries has gone up, but so has the quality of supermarket bread. This
also
means that shopping for greens and fruits is a culturally established
activity - after all, there are shops selling *only* these (and they're
not
for health conscious rich people, greengrocers actually used to be for
poor
folks).
I think that in the USA, the destruction of traditionnal eating and food
by
the industry has played a major role in the rise of obesity levels. The
rest
of the world has gone on that road slower, because obesity has to go
against
culturally established eating patterns.


Wow, there's nothing like painting with one huge brush stroke one big
stereotype. I live in the US (downtown San Francisco to be exact), and I can
name the bakeries, fish mongers, organic groceries, butchers, etc, etc, etc.

Next.....

Martha
who realizes that many people outside the US don't understand that not all
of the US is exactly the same...it's a bigger country than they're used to,
after all...

Dally wrote:

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?

Dally wrote:

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?

metonymy wrote:
Dally wrote:

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?

Fat [Fellow] in Denial.

Of course, replace [Fellow] with a cuss word if you prefer ;-)

metonymy wrote:
Dally wrote:

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?

Fat [Fellow] in Denial.

Of course, replace [Fellow] with a cuss word if you prefer ;-)

metonymy wrote:
Dally wrote:

Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?

Fat [Fellow] in Denial.

Of course, replace [Fellow] with a cuss word if you prefer ;-)

Crafting Mom wrote:

metonymy wrote:

Dally wrote:


Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?


Fat [Fellow] in Denial.

Of course, replace [Fellow] with a cuss word if you prefer ;-)


The OP I was replying to had said:

MartB wrote:

Low carbing doesn't work for me, even worse I gain weight on it.
When I eat 1600 kcals a day and exercise and go under my drs
supervision, I still gain weight.

That's the hallmark of a fat **** in denial. He's fat, he's tried, oh
well, nothing works, it must be his lot in life to be fat. Nothing he
can do will change it.

That's denial.

Please understand that I have no problem with people being fat if they
choose to be. What makes him a "fat ****" is that he doesn't seem to
want to be fat but has screwed himself by his illusion.

If he didn't lose "weight" on 1600 calories at 200 pounds with his
thyroid being treated AND exercising then he's just an idiot who can't
tell the difference between fat loss and weight loss. The scale is not
your friend when you're trying to diet. It takes people on the Body for
Life program about 8 weeks to really start to see a difference in the
scale.

Dally

Crafting Mom wrote:

metonymy wrote:

Dally wrote:


Ever hear the term "FFID"?

No, what does it mean?


Fat [Fellow] in Denial.

Of course, replace [Fellow] with a cuss word if you prefer ;-)


The OP I was replying to had said:

MartB wrote:

Low carbing doesn't work for me, even worse I gain weight on it.
When I eat 1600 kcals a day and exercise and go under my drs
supervision, I still gain weight.

That's the hallmark of a fat **** in denial. He's fat, he's tried, oh
well, nothing works, it must be his lot in life to be fat. Nothing he
can do will change it.

That's denial.

Please understand that I have no problem with people being fat if they
choose to be. What makes him a "fat ****" is that he doesn't seem to
want to be fat but has screwed himself by his illusion.

If he didn't lose "weight" on 1600 calories at 200 pounds with his
thyroid being treated AND exercising then he's just an idiot who can't
tell the difference between fat loss and weight loss. The scale is not
your friend when you're trying to diet. It takes people on the Body for
Life program about 8 weeks to really start to see a difference in the
scale.

Dally