My saturated fat theory

I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
arteries.

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Bob in CT
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My father died of arteriosclerosis in 1961. Before that, it was called
"hardening of the arteries." Doctors assumed it was caused by salt caking
in the arteries. So fat has only been blamed for about 40 years. I predict
lipids is the next culprit.

Jean in Austin
190/170/160
Started LC 11/13/03

"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
arteries.

--
Bob in CT
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"Jean Staffen" wrote:

My father died of arteriosclerosis in 1961. Before that, it was called
"hardening of the arteries." Doctors assumed it was caused by salt caking
in the arteries.
These perspectives are so important and never reported by news
agencies. The medical profession has been so off the mark in the past
in so many ways yet every advance is talked about in such
near-absolute certainty.

So fat has only been blamed for about 40 years. I predict
lipids is the next culprit.

Jean in Austin
190/170/160
Started LC 11/13/03

"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
arteries.

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Bob in CT
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DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
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Atkins since 1/12/2004

"Bob in CT" wrote in message
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I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
arteries.

i thought it was a PETA/wheat farmers/sugar producers/FDA conspiracy.

-kelly

kc wrote:
:: "Bob in CT" wrote in message
:: news ::: I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
::: temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
::: arteries.
::
:: i thought it was a PETA/wheat farmers/sugar producers/FDA conspiracy.

It was...they promoted the point of view that this solid fat must clog up
arteries...People believed it.

A Wild Hypothesis:

Since cholesterol blood tests show that changing to a diet filled with lots
of saturated fat and cholesterol produces only a small short term increase
in cholesterol levels, it seems to me the body must have a mechanism for
eliminating the extra lipids. Suppose this mechanism not only holds the
blood level down to the new slightly higher levels, but also scavenges the
plack from artery walls. In such a case eating more fat would lead to
healthier arteries.

I'm not saying this is true. I am suggesting that it seems plausible.



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I think saturated fat got a bad rap because it gets hard at room
temperature. So, I think people saw it and said that it must clog
arteries.

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Bob in CT
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DigitalVinyl wrote:

"Jean Staffen" wrote:

My father died of arteriosclerosis in 1961. Before that, it was called
"hardening of the arteries." Doctors assumed it was caused by salt caking
in the arteries.

These perspectives are so important and never reported by news
agencies. The medical profession has been so off the mark in the past
in so many ways yet every advance is talked about in such
near-absolute certainty.

It is very interesting, isn't it? I went looking for some ideas for
low-carb meals at B&N the other day and was stunned to find nearly three
entire bays of books dedicated to diet. There were a few low-carb
recipe books but, for the most part, I was shocked to see the typical
heart association low fat/high carb diet recipe books loaded with pasta,
bread and white rice recipes.

I can personally attest to the fact that, for me, such a diet was a
total disaster. I went on a physical fitness binge about 6 years ago,
saw a trainer once every couple weeks, and worked out at the Y 3 times
a week. The trainer put me on a high carb diet and, like an idiot, I
bought every word he said about diet. Very low fat, low protein, high
carb, eat all the carbs you want because the body does not store carbs
as fat, fat makes you fat, etc etc etc. I never lost a single pound and
was ravenous constantly! I was doing such hard workouts that sometimes
I'd have to go home and sleep afterward because I'd be dizzy and feel
sick. I swam laps, did the nordic track, free weights, machines and
other stuff too. I never gained either but if I had been on the right
diet, I should have lost. When I look back, I am shocked at the amount
of exercise I was doing but not losing. (And then I developed a
chlorine allergy and could no longer swim laps..... and that was my
favorite thing..... so peaceful just gliding through the water like that
and so easy on the body too. Now, if I even get near an indoor pool, I
start to wheeze )

If lots of people bought into the same line about diets that I did, then
it is no wonder so many Americans are fat and that the world is making
fun of us. And now I am low carbing (South Beach) and losing slowly but
steadily without much of any big deal! My worst problem is making
enough refrigerator space for all the veggies. And I am only on the
treadmill every other day. Unless I miss a meal, I don't get many
cravings--- it's sometimes something I miss a lot like sushi or Chinese
food with a lot of rice. I don't get any more headaches from not eating
and I feel incredibly better overall than I have in years. My only
regret is listening to people including medical professionals who told
me not to do a low carb diet. Sorry to go on and on--- but I bet lots
of people had similar experiences.

Elinor

Yes, Elinor. We've all been had.



"Elinor Dashwood" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DigitalVinyl wrote:

"Jean Staffen" wrote:

My father died of arteriosclerosis in 1961. Before that, it was called
"hardening of the arteries." Doctors assumed it was caused by salt
caking
in the arteries.

These perspectives are so important and never reported by news
agencies. The medical profession has been so off the mark in the past
in so many ways yet every advance is talked about in such
near-absolute certainty.

It is very interesting, isn't it? I went looking for some ideas for
low-carb meals at B&N the other day and was stunned to find nearly three
entire bays of books dedicated to diet. There were a few low-carb
recipe books but, for the most part, I was shocked to see the typical
heart association low fat/high carb diet recipe books loaded with pasta,
bread and white rice recipes.

I can personally attest to the fact that, for me, such a diet was a
total disaster. I went on a physical fitness binge about 6 years ago,
saw a trainer once every couple weeks, and worked out at the Y 3 times
a week. The trainer put me on a high carb diet and, like an idiot, I
bought every word he said about diet. Very low fat, low protein, high
carb, eat all the carbs you want because the body does not store carbs
as fat, fat makes you fat, etc etc etc. I never lost a single pound and
was ravenous constantly! I was doing such hard workouts that sometimes
I'd have to go home and sleep afterward because I'd be dizzy and feel
sick. I swam laps, did the nordic track, free weights, machines and
other stuff too. I never gained either but if I had been on the right
diet, I should have lost. When I look back, I am shocked at the amount
of exercise I was doing but not losing. (And then I developed a
chlorine allergy and could no longer swim laps..... and that was my
favorite thing..... so peaceful just gliding through the water like that
and so easy on the body too. Now, if I even get near an indoor pool, I
start to wheeze )

If lots of people bought into the same line about diets that I did, then
it is no wonder so many Americans are fat and that the world is making
fun of us. And now I am low carbing (South Beach) and losing slowly but
steadily without much of any big deal! My worst problem is making
enough refrigerator space for all the veggies. And I am only on the
treadmill every other day. Unless I miss a meal, I don't get many
cravings--- it's sometimes something I miss a lot like sushi or Chinese
food with a lot of rice. I don't get any more headaches from not eating
and I feel incredibly better overall than I have in years. My only
regret is listening to people including medical professionals who told
me not to do a low carb diet. Sorry to go on and on--- but I bet lots
of people had similar experiences.

Elinor

"Elinor Dashwood" wrote in message
...
In article ,
DigitalVinyl wrote:

"Jean Staffen" wrote:

My father died of arteriosclerosis in 1961. Before that, it was called
"hardening of the arteries." Doctors assumed it was caused by salt
caking
in the arteries.

These perspectives are so important and never reported by news
agencies. The medical profession has been so off the mark in the past
in so many ways yet every advance is talked about in such
near-absolute certainty.

It is very interesting, isn't it? I went looking for some ideas for
low-carb meals at B&N the other day and was stunned to find nearly three
entire bays of books dedicated to diet. There were a few low-carb
recipe books but, for the most part, I was shocked to see the typical
heart association low fat/high carb diet recipe books loaded with pasta,
bread and white rice recipes.

I can personally attest to the fact that, for me, such a diet was a
total disaster. I went on a physical fitness binge about 6 years ago,
saw a trainer once every couple weeks, and worked out at the Y 3 times
a week. The trainer put me on a high carb diet and, like an idiot, I
bought every word he said about diet. Very low fat, low protein, high
carb, eat all the carbs you want because the body does not store carbs
as fat, fat makes you fat, etc etc etc. I never lost a single pound and
was ravenous constantly! I was doing such hard workouts that sometimes
I'd have to go home and sleep afterward because I'd be dizzy and feel
sick. I swam laps, did the nordic track, free weights, machines and
other stuff too. I never gained either but if I had been on the right
diet, I should have lost. When I look back, I am shocked at the amount
of exercise I was doing but not losing. (And then I developed a
chlorine allergy and could no longer swim laps..... and that was my
favorite thing..... so peaceful just gliding through the water like that
and so easy on the body too. Now, if I even get near an indoor pool, I
start to wheeze )

If lots of people bought into the same line about diets that I did, then
it is no wonder so many Americans are fat and that the world is making
fun of us. And now I am low carbing (South Beach) and losing slowly but
steadily without much of any big deal! My worst problem is making
enough refrigerator space for all the veggies. And I am only on the
treadmill every other day. Unless I miss a meal, I don't get many
cravings--- it's sometimes something I miss a lot like sushi or Chinese
food with a lot of rice. I don't get any more headaches from not eating
and I feel incredibly better overall than I have in years. My only
regret is listening to people including medical professionals who told
me not to do a low carb diet. Sorry to go on and on--- but I bet lots
of people had similar experiences.

Elinor

Elinor,

It sounds so familiar. I have tried every diet which has hit town for the
last 25 years. I hated feeling so hungry all the time. It was a constant
battle to keep my hunger in check. Only since low carbing am I able to
manage better.
--
Evelyn

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On Thu, 04 Mar 2004 19:20:34 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:

A Wild Hypothesis:

Since cholesterol blood tests show that changing to a diet filled with lots
of saturated fat and cholesterol produces only a small short term increase
in cholesterol levels, it seems to me the body must have a mechanism for
eliminating the extra lipids. Suppose this mechanism not only holds the
blood level down to the new slightly higher levels, but also scavenges the
plack from artery walls. In such a case eating more fat would lead to
healthier arteries.

I'm not saying this is true. I am suggesting that it seems plausible.


from http://www.bridgeporthospital.org/HeartInstitute/Cholesterol.asp

Q: Why is LDL cholesterol "bad"?

A: Low-density lipoprotein is the main cholesterol carrier in the blood. If
there is too much LDL cholesterol, it can slowly build up in the walls of
the arteries that feed the heart and brain, and contribute to plaque.
Plaque blocks the arteries, reducing the flow of oxygen-rich blood that
feeds the heart muscle.

Q: Why is HDL cholesterol "good"?

A: One-third to one-fourth of the cholesterol in the blood is carried by
high-density lipoprotein or HDL. Today, experts think HDL carries
cholesterol away from the arteries and back to the liver, so it can pass
out of the body. Some experts believe HDL even removes excess cholesterol
from plaque deposits that have already formed, slowing their growth. A high
level of HDL seems to protect against heart attack. The opposite is also
true: a low level of good cholesterol (less than 35 mg/dl) indicates a
greater risk.

Em