Starvation

How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

TIA

Jay

"Ignoramus8653" wrote in message
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In article , Jay wrote:
How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would
I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

It is very effective for losing weight, although, obviously, it had
its side effects.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...xperiment.html

We had a nanny whose father fasted (water fasting) for 40 or 43 days,
for religious reasons. He lived for a long after that until 82 years
and died of stroke.

The problem with starvation and crash dieting is:
- it does not teach you how to eat to maintain weight
- you lose more muscle than you would on a more sensible plan,
which makes maintenance difficult
- it leads to malnutrition, gall bladder problems etc
- some people report that crash dieting creates binge eating,
although causes of binge eating are not well
known. (http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/nutrit/pubs/binge.htm).

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft
5"
and 350lbs?

Arguments about how long it is safe to fast are endless and usually
pretty groundless. I fasted for 38 hours and it did not do me any
harm. Would not care to fast longer.

Most sources that I have seen say that 3 days seems harmless enough.
Most writing about fasting is done by people whom I consider to be
kooks, so, I am skeptical about all their claims.

Looks like you need to drop about 100+ pounds, so, fasting is unlikely
to get you there.

You can lose 28% of weight without much esoterics, by dropping some
foods, eating less and exercising.

i

I have done it before for 4 days with no side effects but I am talking more
about weeks than days this time - its either that, drugs or just end it all
and thereby the problem goes away

Once again thanks for ur input

Jay

"Ignoramus8653" wrote in message
...
In article , Jay wrote:
How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would
I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

It is very effective for losing weight, although, obviously, it had
its side effects.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...xperiment.html

We had a nanny whose father fasted (water fasting) for 40 or 43 days,
for religious reasons. He lived for a long after that until 82 years
and died of stroke.

The problem with starvation and crash dieting is:
- it does not teach you how to eat to maintain weight
- you lose more muscle than you would on a more sensible plan,
which makes maintenance difficult
- it leads to malnutrition, gall bladder problems etc
- some people report that crash dieting creates binge eating,
although causes of binge eating are not well
known. (http://www.niddk.nih.gov/health/nutrit/pubs/binge.htm).

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft
5"
and 350lbs?

Arguments about how long it is safe to fast are endless and usually
pretty groundless. I fasted for 38 hours and it did not do me any
harm. Would not care to fast longer.

Most sources that I have seen say that 3 days seems harmless enough.
Most writing about fasting is done by people whom I consider to be
kooks, so, I am skeptical about all their claims.

Looks like you need to drop about 100+ pounds, so, fasting is unlikely
to get you there.

You can lose 28% of weight without much esoterics, by dropping some
foods, eating less and exercising.

i

I have done it before for 4 days with no side effects but I am talking more
about weeks than days this time - its either that, drugs or just end it all
and thereby the problem goes away

Once again thanks for ur input

Jay

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote in message
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How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

TIA

Jay

Jay,

Drugs and starvation diets are not the way to go. From your current posts
it appears you're depressed and desparate to lose weight the quickest and
easist way possible. I hate to see someone so young possibly ruin their
health with these methods.

Many in this group have lost a significant amount of weight with a healthy
regime of proper diet and exercise - Chris, Smokey, Matty just to name a
few. Do a google search on Matty in this group and you'll be amazed at the
progress he's made since February of this year when he came here.

Why not give the healthy route a chance? You can get all the help and
support you need from this group.

Sorry I don't recall your entire background so these questions may have
already been answered. Have you consulted your doctor for his help? Can
you find a nutritionist to work with you? Are you currently on a diet?
What type of exercise?

Beverly

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote in message
...
How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

TIA

Jay

Jay,

Drugs and starvation diets are not the way to go. From your current posts
it appears you're depressed and desparate to lose weight the quickest and
easist way possible. I hate to see someone so young possibly ruin their
health with these methods.

Many in this group have lost a significant amount of weight with a healthy
regime of proper diet and exercise - Chris, Smokey, Matty just to name a
few. Do a google search on Matty in this group and you'll be amazed at the
progress he's made since February of this year when he came here.

Why not give the healthy route a chance? You can get all the help and
support you need from this group.

Sorry I don't recall your entire background so these questions may have
already been answered. Have you consulted your doctor for his help? Can
you find a nutritionist to work with you? Are you currently on a diet?
What type of exercise?

Beverly

It's great at killing you. Many people have posted here that after trying
starvation diets, it rebounded on them. Don't do it. Start an exercise
program and learn to eat healthy.

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote in message
...
How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

TIA

Jay

It's great at killing you. Many people have posted here that after trying
starvation diets, it rebounded on them. Don't do it. Start an exercise
program and learn to eat healthy.

"Jay" sales@*remove this bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote in message
...
How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative
impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets
would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum
calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

TIA

Jay

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:20:31 -0400, "Patricia Heil"
wrote:


It's great at killing you. Many people have posted here that after trying
starvation diets, it rebounded on them. Don't do it. Start an exercise
program and learn to eat healthy.

You don't read much do you? Jay Jay is one of the all-time exercisers
in this group.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 16:20:31 -0400, "Patricia Heil"
wrote:


It's great at killing you. Many people have posted here that after trying
starvation diets, it rebounded on them. Don't do it. Start an exercise
program and learn to eat healthy.

You don't read much do you? Jay Jay is one of the all-time exercisers
in this group.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/

On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 18:25:17 +0100, "Jay" sales@*remove this
bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote:

How effective is starvation for weight loss? For example, how long would I
need to starve for to lose a noticeable amount of weight?

Well, you're going to lose a disproportionate amount of lean body
mass, which will make it harder for you to maintain once you do lose
weight.

What's the fascination with starvation?

Also how long can the body go without food without having a negative impact
on future health? If I was to just take water and say vitamin tablets would
that change how long I could do it for? Whats the realistic minimum calories
my body would need per day to be able to function on based on being 6ft 5"
and 350lbs?

If you were healthy it would probably be easier to withstand the
assault on your body. At 350 pounds, you're probably not in that
category, and so more likely to have an adverse incident.

Since there are no studies on starvation as a weight loss tool, there
are no statistics on the morbidity and fatality rate.

I'd rethink this idea and do something else. Anything else.


Barbara Hirsch, Publisher
OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS
The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development
http://www.obesity-news.com/