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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:37:51 +0100, "Jay" sales@*remove this
bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote: This is why I asked the question about how many calories I need to survive and function on in my original post - when I refer to starvation diet thats more what I am talking about that just taking water for weeks or months. There's no answer to you question. You'd have to have a group of people who did what you propose, under controlled conditions, to come up with the statistics. What we do know is that people who undergo starvation lose a lot of lean body mass, and what you want to lose is fat. So that will reduce your metabolic rate substantially and make it hard for you to maintain any weight loss. Your stress level will rise from the starvation and your body will throw a bunch of free radicals, which will increase your risk of things like heart attack and stroke. But there's no way to give you any statistics, cause they don't exist. So you can either do something that won't work, or you can start on a diet and exercise plan. This is alt.support.diet, not alt.support.starvation. Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development http://www.obesity-news.com/ |
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 01:37:51 +0100, "Jay" sales@*remove this
bit*knickershop.co.uk wrote: This is why I asked the question about how many calories I need to survive and function on in my original post - when I refer to starvation diet thats more what I am talking about that just taking water for weeks or months. There's no answer to you question. You'd have to have a group of people who did what you propose, under controlled conditions, to come up with the statistics. What we do know is that people who undergo starvation lose a lot of lean body mass, and what you want to lose is fat. So that will reduce your metabolic rate substantially and make it hard for you to maintain any weight loss. Your stress level will rise from the starvation and your body will throw a bunch of free radicals, which will increase your risk of things like heart attack and stroke. But there's no way to give you any statistics, cause they don't exist. So you can either do something that won't work, or you can start on a diet and exercise plan. This is alt.support.diet, not alt.support.starvation. Barbara Hirsch, Publisher OBESITY MEDS AND RESEARCH NEWS The latest in obesity research and weight loss drug development http://www.obesity-news.com/ |
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(CygnusX-1) wrote in message . com...
Try the subway diet: footlong turkey sub with veggies, no mayo, no oil, no cheese, etc baked chips, diet pop for twice a day. Walk about 3-5 miles a day. You will see results in a few weeks. Don't believe everything you see on TV commercials. What you describe is a low-calorie version of the Sumo wrestler diet. The best result one can hope for is to look like Jarred - 30% body fat and an extremly low metabolism. Of course, clinical studies have shown than only less than 5% can expect the results that Jarred got from this plan. One of the benifits of serving millions this crap is that it means that they'll never run out of testimonials. Low fat dieting has been shown to be a hoax! After spending $750 million on long term nutritional research, the U.S. government and Harvard found no correlation between heart disease and saturated animal fat. They did find that increassing animal fat consumption lowered the risk for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and obesity. See Gary Taubes article "The Soft Science of Dietary Fat" ( from Science)at: http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html Ray Audette Author "NeanderThin" www.NeanderThin.com |
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(CygnusX-1) wrote in message . com...
Try the subway diet: footlong turkey sub with veggies, no mayo, no oil, no cheese, etc baked chips, diet pop for twice a day. Walk about 3-5 miles a day. You will see results in a few weeks. Don't believe everything you see on TV commercials. What you describe is a low-calorie version of the Sumo wrestler diet. The best result one can hope for is to look like Jarred - 30% body fat and an extremly low metabolism. Of course, clinical studies have shown than only less than 5% can expect the results that Jarred got from this plan. One of the benifits of serving millions this crap is that it means that they'll never run out of testimonials. Low fat dieting has been shown to be a hoax! After spending $750 million on long term nutritional research, the U.S. government and Harvard found no correlation between heart disease and saturated animal fat. They did find that increassing animal fat consumption lowered the risk for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and obesity. See Gary Taubes article "The Soft Science of Dietary Fat" ( from Science)at: http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html Ray Audette Author "NeanderThin" www.NeanderThin.com |
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Actually I did the subway diet before jarrod made it famous. I lost
nearly 25 pounds about 4 years ago by eating a 6in sub for lunch and dinner. Unfortunately about 4 years later I put all the weight (and more!) back on. I applied the subway diet again and lost about 30 pounds this year. This time I will continue to monitor my weight twice a day (nite and morning) to keep track of my weight; I didnt do that last time ;-) So the low fat/low calorie diet works for me. Cygnus The Bringer of Balance (Ray Audette) wrote in message Don't believe everything you see on TV commercials. What you describe is a low-calorie version of the Sumo wrestler diet. The best result one can hope for is to look like Jarred - 30% body fat and an extremly low metabolism. Of course, clinical studies have shown than only less than 5% can expect the results that Jarred got from this plan. One of the benifits of serving millions this crap is that it means that they'll never run out of testimonials. Low fat dieting has been shown to be a hoax! After spending $750 million on long term nutritional research, the U.S. government and Harvard found no correlation between heart disease and saturated animal fat. They did find that increassing animal fat consumption lowered the risk for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and obesity. See Gary Taubes article "The Soft Science of Dietary Fat" ( from Science)at: http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html Ray Audette Author "NeanderThin" www.NeanderThin.com |
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Actually I did the subway diet before jarrod made it famous. I lost
nearly 25 pounds about 4 years ago by eating a 6in sub for lunch and dinner. Unfortunately about 4 years later I put all the weight (and more!) back on. I applied the subway diet again and lost about 30 pounds this year. This time I will continue to monitor my weight twice a day (nite and morning) to keep track of my weight; I didnt do that last time ;-) So the low fat/low calorie diet works for me. Cygnus The Bringer of Balance (Ray Audette) wrote in message Don't believe everything you see on TV commercials. What you describe is a low-calorie version of the Sumo wrestler diet. The best result one can hope for is to look like Jarred - 30% body fat and an extremly low metabolism. Of course, clinical studies have shown than only less than 5% can expect the results that Jarred got from this plan. One of the benifits of serving millions this crap is that it means that they'll never run out of testimonials. Low fat dieting has been shown to be a hoax! After spending $750 million on long term nutritional research, the U.S. government and Harvard found no correlation between heart disease and saturated animal fat. They did find that increassing animal fat consumption lowered the risk for cancer, heart disease, diabetes and obesity. See Gary Taubes article "The Soft Science of Dietary Fat" ( from Science)at: http://nasw.org/mem-maint/awards/01Taubesarticle1.html Ray Audette Author "NeanderThin" www.NeanderThin.com |
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"Heywood Mogroot" wrote in message
om... My personal sample size of 2 friends-of-friends says optifast doesn't work. Wow, quite scientific. Instead of mouthing on somethiing you obviously don't know much about, why don't you actually listen to those who have been successful with it? Martha |
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