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Old September 29th, 2007, 06:15 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Ignoramus7365" wrote


Thanks... It is nothing to brag about, but yes, it could have been
worse. I had a kid #2 and that really affected how much I could
exercise.


Congratulations!

I've been reading your posts for years & always thought you were a guy.


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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Cubit" wrote in message
et...
Iggy is a guy.


Mr. Mom?

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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Are you having pain in your teeth? Are they so disintegrated that you need
crowns? If your answer to both these questions is no I would suggest you
get a second opinion before you get any root canals. Root canals are
usually done when a tooth nerve is dead or dying or there is an infection or
abcess under the tooth. If you have an infection believe me you will know
it. That said, root canals are not painful, in fact if you have an infected
tooth a root canal is heavenly relief. The dentists will deaden your jaw
nicely and you will feel nothing. He/she will drill down into the tooth,
stick a file like thing into the root to remove the nerve tissue, take an
xray to make sure everything that should be gone is gone, then pack the
space with a medicated material. He may seal it up then but not if you had
an infection, in that case he will have you take antibiotics and come back
in about a week to have it sealed. After this it is up to him or another
dentist to do any necessary restorative work, fillings, crowns, etc. My
regular dentist does not do root canals, I go to a dental surgeon for them.
You should not have pain afterwards unless it is caused by a bad infection,
if you have an infection and the pain continues beyond a day or two you
should go back because it should be healing up in that amount of time. I
have occasionally had about a half hour of pain when the anesthetic wears
off.

I am not a dentist but have had several root canals. In the teeth that were
not having a pain problem, they were front teeth with a single root where a
post had to be inserted into the root canal to hold a crown on.

Teena wrote:
| You're a dentist? Do you mind if I solicit free dental advice? I,
| like an idiot, avoided the dentist and am now due for some heavy root
| canal work. I guess my mom's genes are coming out. I haven't
| even spoken to my dentist much -- his dental hygienist cleaned my
| teeth, took the x-rays, and my dentist spent about 5 minutes with me,
| tapping my teeth, before sending me to make an appointment. I am a
| weakling chicken with a low pain threshold, but I am scared of
| anasthesia. Is there any kind of extra-strong novacaine I can
| request when the actual work is being done? Should I just opt for
| anasthesia? I remember when I was a kid and my mom had all her teeth
| problems it was just awful for her. Oh, and my uncle, too. He
| doesn't have a tooth left in his head. So, I am a little scared.
| Should I ask for a painkiller like a Tylenol 3 or will regular
| Tylenol be enough? Or is there some other really good painkiller
| that I can use that isn't expensive? My dentist said doing this
| would take multiple visits. Why can't he just do it all at once?
| Oh, and should I take antibiotics? My dental hygienist says no, but
| I thought I would solicit a free opinion from a total stranger on
| usenet. Boy, what a weird post. If you don't want to answer it, I
| understand. If you do, though, that would be nice, especially if you
| can answer before next Thursday at 12:30 pm.
|


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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:34 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Blood Glucose.

Loco~Motion wrote:
| "Jackie Patti" wrote in message
| ...
|| wrote:
|
| And elevated bg is a MUCH higher risk for heart attacks than
| cholesterol!
|
| What is an elevated bg? What does bg mean? Thanks.


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Old September 29th, 2007, 07:46 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"em" wrote in message ...

"Ignoramus7365" wrote

Thanks... It is nothing to brag about, but yes, it could have been
worse. I had a kid #2 and that really affected how much I could
exercise.


Congratulations!

I've been reading your posts for years & always thought you were a guy.


Ig is a guy! Congrats, Ig!


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Old September 29th, 2007, 08:01 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Iggy is a guy.


"em" wrote in message ...

"Ignoramus7365" wrote

Thanks... It is nothing to brag about, but yes, it could have been
worse. I had a kid #2 and that really affected how much I could
exercise.


Congratulations!

I've been reading your posts for years & always thought you were a guy.



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Old September 29th, 2007, 08:29 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"em" wrote in message ...

"Cubit" wrote in message
et...
Iggy is a guy.


Mr. Mom?


Well, it may seem odd that a man would put on weight after a child is
born. I found that it was more a matter of just being around and helping
with rearing, rather than just going out with the boys and doing my own
thing. Having a kid is a major life style change even for the man, if he
wants to participate in raising them. Looking after little people can be
draining, but unfortunately not the same type of "busy" as comes from
exercising.
It seems more of a "Watch me Daddy, watch me". A 20 min walk with a
toddler spans maybe a whole block. Going to the store involves packing all
sorts of stuff that you might need. This all takes way more time than one
would think. And like I said, you're constantly busy doing stuff. But the
tiredness at the end of the day isn't coming from strenuous labor. There
were also other things like making our own baby food from what we ate,
rather than buying canned apple sauce and such. Making a Halloween costume.
Even when we took our daughter fishing or swimming, there didn't seem like a
lot of time for our own activity. It was always about making sure the kid
was having fun and being safe.
All this of course has changed as she is older, more independent, and able
to participate with us as oppose to just us watching. Still, it is not the
same as living with room mates. When my daughter goes for a bike ride with
her friends, she still expects that someone will be around to put a band aid
on, or make something ready for lunch after the long ride. It's just having
to be there "on call" that takes all the time. Kids are great. But they do
require one's investment of a lot of time.



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Old September 29th, 2007, 09:46 PM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Sep 28, 8:27 pm, "Teena" wrote:
wrote:

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I'm a retired dentist and taught at a dental school.


You're a dentist? Do you mind if I solicit free dental advice? I, like an
idiot, avoided the dentist and am now due for some heavy root canal work. I
guess my mom's genes are coming out. I haven't even spoken to my dentist
much -- his dental hygienist cleaned my teeth, took the x-rays, and my
dentist spent about 5 minutes with me, tapping my teeth, before sending me
to make an appointment. I am a weakling chicken with a low pain threshold,
but I am scared of anasthesia. Is there any kind of extra-strong novacaine
I can request when the actual work is being done? Should I just opt for
anasthesia? I remember when I was a kid and my mom had all her teeth
problems it was just awful for her. Oh, and my uncle, too. He doesn't have
a tooth left in his head. So, I am a little scared. Should I ask for a
painkiller like a Tylenol 3 or will regular Tylenol be enough? Or is there
some other really good painkiller that I can use that isn't expensive? My
dentist said doing this would take multiple visits. Why can't he just do it
all at once? Oh, and should I take antibiotics? My dental hygienist says
no, but I thought I would solicit a free opinion from a total stranger on
usenet. Boy, what a weird post. If you don't want to answer it, I
understand. If you do, though, that would be nice, especially if you can
answer before next Thursday at 12:30 pm.



I've read a lot
of research papers. Again, you are wrong because you base your
conclusions on little or no information. dkw- Hide quoted text -


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OK. Lots of people don't need Tylenol 3 and get by with plain Tylenol
or something else otc, but the dentist will have a better idea about
what to expect after the visit. You could always try something cheap,
then not fill the Rx or not have one phoned in if you don't need
something stronger. The multiple visits is due to several things.
First, sometimes a root canal can be completed in a single visit, but
this us usually reserved for single-rooted teeth and those that are
not likely to flair up after the root canal filling material is
inserted....otherwise, if there are problems, the dentist would have
to remove the set-up material which isn't so simple. Another reason is
possible infection if the tooth has caused infection or is likely to.
If you get problems, like a swelling from an infection, usually the
dentist has to go back and do more cleaning of the canal and allow for
drainage THROUGH the tooth. Once the canal/canals are filled, this
cannot happen and the swelling and infection tends to get worse. The
3rd problem is time. It takes a long time to do a root canal. On a
multirooted tooth like a molar, it might take an hour just to find the
canals let along file them out properly....and there are 3 or more
canals to deal with. Also related to time (which is money) is the fact
that if the dentist sets aside 3 hours to do a root canal......and
something comes up and you can't make it, there could be 3 hours of
down-time. These reasons are why it might cost up to $1,000 for a root
canal...probably the range is $200 for an easier single rooted tooth
on up as the degree of difficulty and time goes up. You are paying for
time, not materials. Materials for root canals are cheap. Then comes
the crown that is almost always needed afterward and that costs
another $500 up.

The dentist should Rx antibiotics if he/she suspects there is likely
to be an infection. Otherwise not. Good luck. dkw


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Old September 29th, 2007, 09:50 PM posted to alt.support.diet
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 21:54:43 -0400, Teena wrote:


You know, I think genetics play such a huge component in cholesterol. My
father, who ran at least 5 miles a day, had insanely high cholesterol, over
300 I think. The only person I ever knew who was in better shape than my
old man is my brother, who is a triathlete. He has gotten his cholesterol
down, but it's over 200 and pretty high. My willowy, slender aunt who has
NEVER been overweight is on one of those cholesterol reducing drugs, can't
remember which. And me, totally out of shape and overweight, I have high
cholesterol, too. So, genetics?


I have to agree, I think genetics does play a big part.

For instance, I'm obese, and have never had high cholesterol, problems
with blood glucose levels or high blood pressure for that matter. Now,
I've improved on 120/80 blood pressure by exercising (currently
114/65), but I seem to have the genetics to avoid diabetes, heart
disease, etc, in spite of a pretty unhealthy lifestyle in the recent
past.

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Old September 30th, 2007, 12:58 AM posted to alt.support.diet,alt.support.diet.low-carb
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wrote:

No conspiracy theories please, at least not with cholesterol. Just
don't try and defend a high cholesterol diet as being good for you
unless you have the SCIENTIFIC long-term studies to show how wrong all
that research is, and not using any of that Atkins mumbo-jumbo.


All WHICH research? One mouse study convinced us that cholesterol was
unhealthy. And thus the move to vegetable oils, often hydrogenated
ones, began.

We replaced saturated fats with trans fats and heart disease went from
almost non-existent to being the most common cause of death.

I personally doubt it was a conspiracy. I presume it was a case of
overextrapolating from a preliminary study. It happens all the time -
it's still happenning today.

Maybe
you'll be lucky though and escape being fat and/or having a coronary.
You could certainly be right that it might not hurt YOU, but there is
plenty of good hard evidence that statistically high-cholesterol diets
are related to athersclerosis.


Cites?

The misleading info would be coming
from big business like Dairy Association or Beef Council, etc. Nobody
has any vested interest in recommending that you reduce your intake of
those products either.


Well, no.

Those industries don't make much of the healthiest fats either. I doubt
they're championing that we eat the best fats as it's not in their
financial interest at all.

Currently, the evidence is that the monunsaturated fats are best -
avocado oil and olive oil, and the evidence is that the healthiest
saturated fat is coconut oil.

Pasture-raised dairy and meat is the best answer in meat and dairy
products, and those industries don't produce it and don't support it.

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