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Increasing Metabolism by way of High Calorie Diet?



 
 
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Old May 5th, 2005, 03:39 AM
John Hanson
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On Tue, 3 May 2005 22:08:36 -0400, "455" wrote
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1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the most
effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected in your
system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as much as two
thousand percent! Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high
calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass
quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10
percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism.
Unfortunately, labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble.
So exercise with intensity, and eat big.

http://www.neonjoint.com/passing_a_d...ion_times.html

So the only goal for this advice is to get the drugs out of your
system as quickly as possible. You'll be fatter (and more muscular)
but who cares if you are just trying to pass a drug test. I wouldn't
use this advice for someone who is trying to get more fit. But, I
would tell a powerlifter moving up a weight class to follow this.

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Old May 5th, 2005, 11:34 PM
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In article ,
"455" wrote:

" A high calorie diet is the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming
mass quantities of high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to
10 percent. On the contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your
metabolism by 10 percent. "


Yes, all those people out there getting thinner from the increase in BMR
by eating massive calories. Does that make sense to you?! Finding the
correct kcal intake is the trick BTW. There are formulas you can look up
of course, but that's only part of the battle.

--
Will Brink @ http://www.brinkzone.com/


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Old May 11th, 2005, 09:49 AM
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"455" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the most
effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected in
your system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as much as
two thousand percent!


Are you seriously trying to tell me that joe average can have a metabolic
rate of 40.000 kcal a day (2000 * 20)?
Top olympic-games-type of athletes (runners) burn about a max of
10.000-15.000kcal on the day of the competition.. how many high speed
marathons can you run in a week?

Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high calorie diet is
the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass quantities of high
calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10 percent. On the
contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your metabolism by 10
percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism. Unfortunately,
labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble. So exercise
with intensity, and eat big.

http://www.neonjoint.com/passing_a_d...ion_times.html



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Old May 14th, 2005, 11:39 AM
Jane Lumley
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"MMu" wrote in message
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"455" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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1.4 Decreasing detection times: Increasing metabolism is probably the
most effective way to decrease the time period that drugs can be detected
in your system. Physical activity can increase your metabolic rate as
much as two thousand percent!


Are you seriously trying to tell me that joe average can have a metabolic
rate of 40.000 kcal a day (2000 * 20)?
Top olympic-games-type of athletes (runners) burn about a max of
10.000-15.000kcal on the day of the competition.. how many high speed
marathons can you run in a week?

Nothing beats proper training taken to an extreme. A high calorie diet is
the next best way to increase metabolism. Consuming mass quantities of
high calorie food will increase metabolic rate by up to 10 percent. On the
contrary, a malnutritious (light) diet could lower your metabolism by 10
percent. Speed (the drug) will also increase metabolism. Unfortunately,
labs usually test for speed, and could get you into trouble. So exercise
with intensity, and eat big.


Honestly, the idea that the more you eat, the more you burn is unhelpful for
most of us with problems controlling our weight. Of course absolute
starvation dieting lowers metabolic rate, but the idea that what you need is
more calories per diem is nonsense. What works for most of us is what we
naturally do - calorie control 24/7, with the odd (monthly or less) planned
splurge or treat (NOT massive brownie pigout) which acts as a refeed.

I also think perceived stomach fullness is a biggie here, and hence the
importance of balancing foods at each meal, eating low-density foods etc.
IMHO, the longer your stomach FEELS empty, the more your metabolism drops.
Also IMHO, and no, i have no data, metabolsim drops with dehydration.


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Old May 14th, 2005, 03:48 PM
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You can shift you calorein intake up whilst lowering body fat but you
have to accept some things...

1) you are only going to be able to burn a small amount off using
reasonably, sustainable amounts of exercise
2) you are going to have to manipulate you diet - not just the amounts
you are eating but what you ar eating and at what times.

ALSO

A calorie is not necessarily a calorie, and

Energy balance does not equal cals consumed VS cals burned in the
real world (if only it were that easy!)

Try to realise that a calorie from saturated fat is going effect the
body differently to a calorie from protein. A calorie is not a calorie!
Also, people react to increased calorie intake in different ways. Most
research suggests that there may be as much a 40% difference in
different peoples reactions to calorie manipulation. Energy balance
does not equal calin vs cals out! There are a few things that ring true
for most people though.....

You are going to have to fool your body into becoming more efficient at
using those extra calories and you are going to have to try to shift
the calories into support muscle metabolism and generally raising
metabolic rate.

You do this by eating many smalled meals, lots of protein, good
nutrient rich foods high in vitamins, minerals, good fats (omega 3 and
9 rich), phyto nutrients etc. Basically fruit, veg, oily fish, lean
meat, nuts and seeds etc. Also try to eat CARBS and FAT separately but
always eat protein with each meal.

There too much to go into here but there is a guy I think his name in
Berardi who is a PhD student and trainer to Olympic athletes. Look him
up on google.

Hope that helps.

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Old May 14th, 2005, 10:37 PM
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In article ,
Jane Lumley wrote:

Honestly, the idea that the more you eat, the more you burn is unhelpful for
most of us with problems controlling our weight. Of course absolute
starvation dieting lowers metabolic rate, but the idea that what you need is
more calories per diem is nonsense.


Agreed.

What works for most of us is what we naturally do - calorie control
24/7, with the odd (monthly or less) planned splurge or treat (NOT
massive brownie pigout) which acts as a refeed.


That isn't exactly "natural". Also, the correct frequency of refeeds
depends on a number of factors, especially bodyfat percentage. The
lower it is, the more often you should refeed. See
bodyrecomposition.com for more details. (Hey, Lyle, I want that $1
back.)

I also think perceived stomach fullness is a biggie here, and hence the
importance of balancing foods at each meal, eating low-density foods etc.
IMHO, the longer your stomach FEELS empty, the more your metabolism drops.


Not exactly.

Seth
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"There is no such thing as an essential carbohydrate" -- Will Brink
Except sushi rice, seaweed, and wasabi.
 




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