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FOB wrote in message ... are obviously still stuck in the low fat/high carb syndrome as is the American Diabetes Association. Fat does not raise BG, carbs do. Avoid their badvice. Ditto that. Cheri |
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Ophelia wrote:
http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-...erds_Pie/?nt=1 I'm relatively sure the UK organization is pretty much as lame as the ADA. We have some UK folks on the diabetic newsgroup I frequent and they don't seem to think very highly of it. As for the ADA... well, I quit following them years ago, long before they were on the web. When they finally admitted starch was biochemically the same as sugar, and the conclusion they reached was that it was therefore OK for diabetics to eat sugar - I lost all interest in them then. The link I gave you about testing is what works. No one has to take my word for it, or the ADA's, or the UK organizaiton, or anyone else. You eat some food, you test your bg, and you decide based on the results what foods are best to eat. In most cases, it just ends up being a typical low-carb diet, though some people have unusually low or high reactions to certain foods and can therefore "allow" some things others can't or must "disallow" some foods others are fine with. Beats the heck out of a generic GI scale, an average measured on a bunch of strangers - or generic guidelines that work for some diabetics, but not necessarily you. -- http://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ |
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Aaron Baugher wrote:
"Ophelia" writes: I don't have a clue what my bg is. Ought I to know, or would know if there was a problem? I think it's a very useful thing to know. If you're overweight, there's a good chance that your blood sugar isn't well controlled. If your BG doesn't come back to normal within two hours after eating, that means either A) your pancreas isn't producing as much insulin as it should, or B) it's producing insulin like crazy, but you're insulin resistant enough that all that insulin isn't able to convince your cells to pull the glucose out of your blood. The latter may eventually wear your pancreas out to the point of Type II diabetes. A doctor can do a fasting BG test, but for $50-$100 in equipment and strips you can test yourself multiple times: fasting, when waking up, one hour and two hours after meals, after exercise, etc. That'll give you a much better picture of how your body handled glucose than a single test will. You can also test after foods like sugar alcohols, which seem to cause a BG spike in some people and not others, to see how they affect you. Someone here said that the best deal on a blood sugar tester is to get the Sams Club meter and their test strips. I went into my local Sams CLub and the pharmacy guy agreed and said that the prices were as much as 50% below the competitors. There are many "free" offers for meters, but they stick you in the end for all of the higher cost test strips. I haven't bought one yet. But, I might soon. This advice is assuming you have access to a Sams Club. |
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Cheri wrote:
FOB wrote in message ... are obviously still stuck in the low fat/high carb syndrome as is the American Diabetes Association. Fat does not raise BG, carbs do. Avoid their badvice. Ditto that. I had an interesting conversation yesterday with my daughter's renal dietitian. I was silly enough to ask her about how many people who grow up on a renal diet (low protein, low potassium, high white bread/pasta, high fat) end up with type II diabetes. Of course she went right into the number of diabetes patients whose kidneys eventually fail. I told her I understood how that worked but I wanted to know about how you could avoid becoming diabetic when your whole diet consisted of sugar with a little fat. Stupid me, sugar doesn't cause diabetes, being fat causes it. Don't forget what we all know, you can get fat eating protein and fat too! Why did I bother? It's so freaking frustrating, I can only get the kind of data I want from these people and they don't have it because they already know how it works. I wouldn't even have talked to her in the first place, except my daughter (17) has decided to become a vegetarian so she needed to check in with the dietitian - mostly to be sure she wasn't going to have problems with high levels of potassium from combining beans and grains. You know what though? Apparently someone has done some study that shows that combining for proteins isn't really necessary, so throw away your copy of Laurel's Kitchen! We're supposed to read this: http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore...kid~23215.aspx I. Can't. Wait. I suppose I could read it concurrently with Taubes. Sometimes I get the feeling that many medical professionals took their chemistry just so they could continue their studies, not to enhance their understanding of those studies. How else can doctors in general recommend a way of eating that negates everything they learned about endocrinology and basic organic chemistry? bitter, brigid |
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Jim wrote in message ... Aaron Baugher wrote: "Ophelia" writes: I don't have a clue what my bg is. Ought I to know, or would know if there was a problem? I think it's a very useful thing to know. If you're overweight, there's a good chance that your blood sugar isn't well controlled. If your BG doesn't come back to normal within two hours after eating, that means either A) your pancreas isn't producing as much insulin as it should, or B) it's producing insulin like crazy, but you're insulin resistant enough that all that insulin isn't able to convince your cells to pull the glucose out of your blood. The latter may eventually wear your pancreas out to the point of Type II diabetes. A doctor can do a fasting BG test, but for $50-$100 in equipment and strips you can test yourself multiple times: fasting, when waking up, one hour and two hours after meals, after exercise, etc. That'll give you a much better picture of how your body handled glucose than a single test will. You can also test after foods like sugar alcohols, which seem to cause a BG spike in some people and not others, to see how they affect you. Someone here said that the best deal on a blood sugar tester is to get the Sams Club meter and their test strips. I went into my local Sams CLub and the pharmacy guy agreed and said that the prices were as much as 50% below the competitors. There are many "free" offers for meters, but they stick you in the end for all of the higher cost test strips. I haven't bought one yet. But, I might soon. This advice is assuming you have access to a Sams Club. The Reli-On meters are usually 9.99 at Wal-Mart too, and the strips are around 44.00 for 100, which makes them less than half the price of some meter strips. Rip off is right. Also, Walgreen's has a decent meter for around the same price, a bit higher, it's called the Tru-Track. Cheri |
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RiteAid (drugstore.com on line) has a BG meter for $14.99 and the strips are
100 for $49.99, this is the same price as the Walmart/Sam's Club stuff. I believe Walgreen's has a similar deal. Drugstore.com ships free over $49. Jim wrote: | | | Someone here said that the best deal on a blood sugar tester is to get | the Sams Club meter and their test strips. | | I went into my local Sams CLub and the pharmacy guy agreed and said | that the prices were as much as 50% below the competitors. | | There are many "free" offers for meters, but they stick you in the end | for all of the higher cost test strips. | | I haven't bought one yet. But, I might soon. | | This advice is assuming you have access to a Sams Club. |
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Jackie Patti wrote:
Ophelia wrote: http://www.diabetes.org.uk/Guide-to-...erds_Pie/?nt=1 I'm relatively sure the UK organization is pretty much as lame as the ADA. We have some UK folks on the diabetic newsgroup I frequent and they don't seem to think very highly of it. As for the ADA... well, I quit following them years ago, long before they were on the web. When they finally admitted starch was biochemically the same as sugar, and the conclusion they reached was that it was therefore OK for diabetics to eat sugar - I lost all interest in them then. The link I gave you about testing is what works. No one has to take my word for it, or the ADA's, or the UK organizaiton, or anyone else. You eat some food, you test your bg, and you decide based on the results what foods are best to eat. In most cases, it just ends up being a typical low-carb diet, though some people have unusually low or high reactions to certain foods and can therefore "allow" some things others can't or must "disallow" some foods others are fine with. Beats the heck out of a generic GI scale, an average measured on a bunch of strangers - or generic guidelines that work for some diabetics, but not necessarily you. Thanks) |
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Jim wrote:
Aaron Baugher wrote: "Ophelia" writes: I don't have a clue what my bg is. Ought I to know, or would know if there was a problem? I think it's a very useful thing to know. If you're overweight, there's a good chance that your blood sugar isn't well controlled. If your BG doesn't come back to normal within two hours after eating, that means either A) your pancreas isn't producing as much insulin as it should, or B) it's producing insulin like crazy, but you're insulin resistant enough that all that insulin isn't able to convince your cells to pull the glucose out of your blood. The latter may eventually wear your pancreas out to the point of Type II diabetes. A doctor can do a fasting BG test, but for $50-$100 in equipment and strips you can test yourself multiple times: fasting, when waking up, one hour and two hours after meals, after exercise, etc. That'll give you a much better picture of how your body handled glucose than a single test will. You can also test after foods like sugar alcohols, which seem to cause a BG spike in some people and not others, to see how they affect you. Someone here said that the best deal on a blood sugar tester is to get the Sams Club meter and their test strips. I went into my local Sams CLub and the pharmacy guy agreed and said that the prices were as much as 50% below the competitors. There are many "free" offers for meters, but they stick you in the end for all of the higher cost test strips. I haven't bought one yet. But, I might soon. This advice is assuming you have access to a Sams Club. Was that meant for me Jim? If so, I am in UK |
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Ophelia wrote:
Jim wrote: Aaron Baugher wrote: "Ophelia" writes: I don't have a clue what my bg is. Ought I to know, or would know if there was a problem? I think it's a very useful thing to know. If you're overweight, there's a good chance that your blood sugar isn't well controlled. If your BG doesn't come back to normal within two hours after eating, that means either A) your pancreas isn't producing as much insulin as it should, or B) it's producing insulin like crazy, but you're insulin resistant enough that all that insulin isn't able to convince your cells to pull the glucose out of your blood. The latter may eventually wear your pancreas out to the point of Type II diabetes. A doctor can do a fasting BG test, but for $50-$100 in equipment and strips you can test yourself multiple times: fasting, when waking up, one hour and two hours after meals, after exercise, etc. That'll give you a much better picture of how your body handled glucose than a single test will. You can also test after foods like sugar alcohols, which seem to cause a BG spike in some people and not others, to see how they affect you. Someone here said that the best deal on a blood sugar tester is to get the Sams Club meter and their test strips. I went into my local Sams CLub and the pharmacy guy agreed and said that the prices were as much as 50% below the competitors. There are many "free" offers for meters, but they stick you in the end for all of the higher cost test strips. I haven't bought one yet. But, I might soon. This advice is assuming you have access to a Sams Club. Was that meant for me Jim? If so, I am in UK Yes, you had mentioned being in the UK before where not everything is the same as the USA, even though we both misspeak the English language. |
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Jim wrote:
Yes, you had mentioned being in the UK before where not everything is the same as the USA, even though we both misspeak the English language. LOL ain't that the truth)) |
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