My Modified LC plan

In article ,
Patricia Martin Steward wrote:

On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:53:39 -0400, Susan wrote:

Let me get this straight; rather than share information about
supermarket low carb prepared meals that others might benefit from,
you're flouncing off in a huff?

Oh, please. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

One of the things I LOVED about the low-carb "fad" of, what, three or
four years ago, was the availability of low-carb stuff I could bring
to work for lunch. I especially liked a frozen dinner brand Lifestyle
-- like a TV dinner, but low carb! I really miss them.

Every now and then I run across a frozen prepared meal that's fairly
low in carbs (my usual rule is no more than 20 or 30), but I can't
recall any right now.

If you are going to eat prepared foods, you might check out Amy's Kitchen
http://www.amys.com/products/index.php
I haven't eaten any, but co-workers have, and when I've read the lists
of ingredients, I haven't seen any problems, except, maybe, for salt.
They have a "low salt" line of products, as well as a line of "diabetic"
products. As I said, I haven't eaten any of these products, and I
wouldn't recommend anyone eat them, BUT if you want a "plan B" for when
you don't have time to make a lunch for work in the morning, or some
other stop gap meal, you might give them a look. You could do worse.
Let me know if you see a problem, and I'll pass it on to my collegues.
--
"When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist."
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

"Patricia Martin Steward" wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:53:39 -0400, Susan wrote:

Let me get this straight; rather than share information about
supermarket low carb prepared meals that others might benefit from,
you're flouncing off in a huff?


I don't think I know how to "flounce". How is it done? You were the
one that said that I was FOS? Now that's gotta be worse than flouncing, no?
Not a very nice thing to call someone you don't even know is it?
Let's recap. Didn't I mention Kashi as a better brand, and Healthy
Choice as not so good? Did I not say that inside each brand you may find 1
or 2 particular ones that your personal taste may decide on? Didn't I
include Trader Joes as a good place to find LC prepared food choices? And
lastly I thought I said that if interested you should go to your individual
market and read labels? Especially since not all of you have a Traders, an
Accociated, a Waldbaums, a Pathmark, like I do where I live. Isn't this
enough information, or am I still breaking your code?


Oh, please. Good riddance to bad rubbish.



Geez I never thought of myself as being bad rubbish? Another really good
example of a nice pleasant poster. LOL


--
JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Susan wrote:
Isn't that 10 weeks plus 10 years?

No. The ten years don't count because he wasn't officially trying to lose
weight during that time. Surely, you can't be this dense and pedantic.

Orlando

BlueBrooke wrote:
Oooooooookay --
So the ten years count when he wants to say he lost 42 pounds in that
period of time on LC.
But they don't count because . . . .? He wasn't really trying? He
accidentally lost the weight?

Why are you nit picking about how much weight he's lost or how many years it
took him to do it? The undertone of these disparaging messages is that he's
only worthy of being among us because he's doing some modified version of LC.
Look, although this newsgroup has "support" in its name, we both know that
people post here for all sorts of reasons. Some post to receive dietary
support; others take every opportunity to disparage low-carb eating, while
people like me question zealotry in all its forms.

And you know this because?

I know that if the guy has lost enough weight to make him happy with the
results, regardless of how many years it took him to do it, that we should
leave him alone. What's your point in harping on the details of when he starts
counting his weight loss time or how many pounds he's lost? Look, if it took
him ten years to lose 42 pounds and he enjoyed his life during that time, I'm
all for it! What's wrong with that? Is this newsgroup only supportive to people
who want to lose weight rapidly on a strictly low-carb plan? I should hope we'd
be more inclusive.

Orlando

In article ,
Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

Why are you nit picking about how much weight he's lost or how many years it
took him to do it? The undertone of these disparaging messages is that he's
only worthy of being among us because he's doing some modified version of LC.
The undertone of these disparaging messages? After you tell some one
that they,"Surely, ... can't be this dense and pedantic"? You are such
an ass. If you pick a fight, you shouldn't be surprised if you get one.
--
"When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist."
-Archbishop Helder Camara

http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj
http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm

Pretty funny how it's the same ones that keep this up isn't it? Where
did I say it took me 10 years and 10 weeks to lose weight? My current
modified plan has seen me lose 22 lbs in 10 weeks. 10 years ago I was at my
all time high, and am now down a total of 42 lbs since then. I lost lots of
weight doing Atkins, then put some back over time. Do you want a diary and
graph? If I write 10 paragraphs about my successes, you'll look for and want
to comment on the one failure and then correct the grammar & punctuation....
not to mention questioning my choice of font! I really wonder if you live
alone, or have a significant other that puts up with this kind of behavior?
Relax, have fun, exercise, and lose weight!


--
"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

Susan wrote:
But you've said that your doctor thinks you're still obese enough to be
causing you health concerns, even after ten years. So it makes one
wonder what's so commendable about those prepared foods you refuse to
disclose.
Just sayinzall.

Whether or not those prepared foods are optimal for his weight loss, he can't
or won't prepare most of his own food and must make due with prepared food.

Congrats on 42 lbs loss in 10 years; I hope it continues until your
weight is no longer of concern to you and your doctor.

At least, you know how to be polite.

Orlando

"JKconey" wrote:

... My current
modified plan has seen me lose 22 lbs in 10 weeks. 10 years ago I was at my
all time high, and am now down a total of 42 lbs since then. I lost lots of
weight doing Atkins, then put some back over time.

Let's see if I have this right -

You started low carbing ten years ago. You initially lost an
unspecified amount and ended up keeping off 20. That's a
pretty good long term result given the high dropout rate over
the years.

Now you're on a different low carb plan for the last 10 weeks
and the result has been 22 more pounds.

The part I disagree with you on is which part is modified Atkins
and which part isn't. As described what you are doing now is
Atkins as it is written in the book so what you were on before
was the modified plan. You stayed fairly close to induction
levels is my guess. It's not obvious that eating more carbs
aka following the book results in more lost, not until it's phrased
in the form of follow the book.

Do you want a diary and graph?

It sure would be great. Examples from successful folks rule.

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
...
"JKconey" wrote:

... My current
modified plan has seen me lose 22 lbs in 10 weeks. 10 years ago I was at
my
all time high, and am now down a total of 42 lbs since then. I lost lots
of
weight doing Atkins, then put some back over time.

Let's see if I have this right -

You started low carbing ten years ago. You initially lost an
unspecified amount and ended up keeping off 20. That's a
pretty good long term result given the high dropout rate over
the years.

Now you're on a different low carb plan for the last 10 weeks
and the result has been 22 more pounds.


Absolutely correct, and thanks! Explain this to Susan please. She
keeps harping on the prepared food thing, which I clearly said was an
occasional thing to help me stay on the path. Kashi frozen chicken, veggies,
brown rice, about 280 calories is a really nice short term dinner for me
when I want a change. I don't eat frozen meals everyday, maybe twice a week
when it's convenient. At this point my guess is that my increased exercise
is the biggest reason of this round of success. Although I've never eaten
sugar, bread, or pasta in my 10 years, I've added some new carbs, (brown
rice, fruit, bran cereal & sugar free treats) and am still doing well. I
also have cut down portions and calories, which I never did on Atkins. If I
were sedentary again, I doubt I'd be doing this well. Work starts next week,
so I anticipate a return to bad habits and a real slowing down of weight
loss.



--
"Never bet on the end of the world because it's only going to happen once
and how are you going to collect?"

JK
www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com

"JKconey" wrote in message
...

"Doug Freyburger" wrote in message
...
"JKconey" wrote:

... My current
modified plan has seen me lose 22 lbs in 10 weeks. 10 years ago I was at
my
all time high, and am now down a total of 42 lbs since then. I lost lots
of
weight doing Atkins, then put some back over time.

Let's see if I have this right -

You started low carbing ten years ago. You initially lost an
unspecified amount and ended up keeping off 20. That's a
pretty good long term result given the high dropout rate over
the years.

Now you're on a different low carb plan for the last 10 weeks
and the result has been 22 more pounds.


Absolutely correct, and thanks! Explain this to Susan please. She
keeps harping on the prepared food thing, which I clearly said was an
occasional thing to help me stay on the path. Kashi frozen chicken,
veggies, brown rice, about 280 calories is a really nice short term dinner
for me when I want a change. I don't eat frozen meals everyday, maybe
twice a week when it's convenient. At this point my guess is that my
increased exercise is the biggest reason of this round of success.
Although I've never eaten sugar, bread, or pasta in my 10 years, I've
added some new carbs, (brown rice, fruit, bran cereal & sugar free treats)
and am still doing well. I also have cut down portions and calories,
which I never did on Atkins. If I were sedentary again, I doubt I'd be
doing this well. Work starts next week, so I anticipate a return to bad
habits and a real slowing down of weight loss.

Weren't you just posting in alt.support.diabetes?

Cheri