So slow.....

wrote:
How does one eat only protein anyway? Protein powder? Yuck.

From meat, fish, eggs, cheese, soy products, even certain beans and legumes.

Orlando

Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:

... Some prefer to eat absurd
amounts of green vegetables instead of carbs.

Wow. You have a serious language barrier. Any plant
based foods have carbs. Plenty of animal based foods have
carbs.

The word "absurd" in your statement above is meaningless
without some clue on what portions you mean - In surveys
of long term low carbers the largest commonality is they
replaced starchy foods with vegetables lower in carbs.
Would you say that carb eaters consume absurd amounts
of potatoes or grain or whatever? I would say that. Do I now
eat absurd quantities of low carb veggies? Folks who love
junk food would say that.

On Jan 27, 10:39*am, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote:
wrote:
Which could you eat more of? * Turkey breast or butter?

I'd enjoy turkey breasts much more than thinly disguised or straight butter.
Some people get off on fat, though.

And if you want to now include veg oils, how does that square with telling him

to eat only lean protein?

I only mentioned lean protein as an alternative to the fat fast he was
proposing.


I must have missed where Martin was proposing a fat fast. All I
recall was him complaining a bit that 1 lb a week wasn't as fast as he
lost last time he went LC.



Low carb doesn't necessarily equate to high saturated fat; it's just
a question of what you want to replace the carbs. Some prefer to eat absurd
amounts of green vegetables instead of carbs.

Orlando

"Orlando Enrique Fiol" wrote in message
...
wrote:
How does one eat only protein anyway? Protein powder? Yuck.

From meat, fish, eggs, cheese, soy products, even certain beans and
legumes.

Orlando

Those don't give you protein only. Those give you fat, protein, and even
carbs.

I only mentioned lean protein as an alternative to the fat fast he was
proposing.


I must have missed where Martin was proposing a fat fast. All I
recall was him complaining a bit that 1 lb a week wasn't as fast as he
lost last time he went LC.


Yes - I wasn't proposing a fat fast - although not averse to the idea.
I do enjoy a high percentage of fat in my diet, mostly from olive oil,
lard and natural fat in eggs beef etc.

I was bemoaning the fact that even though my thyroid runs fast, it
doesn't appear to help drop the pouinds ( as it does in some).

Slow has become zero this week, but I do know that weight happens in
fits and starts and is not so easily predictable.

Thanks for the ideas guys!

Martin

I am the same way. It takes a LOT of exercise to make me lose. I eat
under 30 carbs a day and do not move a pound unless I get a lot of
exercise.

I also have a weird thyroid that says I am hyperthyroid, yet I am
chubby, sleepless, and always on the go.

WEIRD !!!

On Jan 26, 3:46*am, Martin Barrett wrote:
Hi,

Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is steady
but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.

Especially annoyed as my TSH is .3 and free T4 over the top of the
scale, so am borderline hyperT - which I would have thought would help
with weight loss. Apparently not.
(makes me irritable and fuzzy headed and sleepless though)

Moan over - back to my 20g carbs a day and the anti candida diet (no
dairy or fruit or alcohol - just meat/fish and veggies/salad)

Martin

Martin Barrett wrote:

I was bemoaning the fact that even though my thyroid runs fast, it
doesn't appear to help drop the pouinds ( as it does in some).

Slow has become zero this week, but I do know that weight happens in
fits and starts and is not so easily predictable.

As happens so often there's advice on this topic from Dr
Atkins that applies across the board to all dieters not just
At-kids -

A stall is 4+ weeks without a new low, without a lost
inch, without going off plan.

This definition is important because it teaches what is and
what isn't reasonable in expectations and what is and isn't
slow. At this point you've seen 4 new lows in the last 5
weeks. You're no where near stalled and not losing slowly.

I know it *feels* slow but when it comes down to it you
could be seeing a new low daily and it would still *feel*
slow. Loss rates aren't about feelings. Loss rates are
about reality and what actually happens. It very hard to
get past the feelings but it's mandatory. Let the feelings
rule and eventually they will sap your resolve to stay on
plan no matter what plan you're on. You've seen a new
low very recently when viewed objectively - Focus on that
and make sure it settles in.

Martin Barrett wrote:
Hi,

Been low carbing again for the last month, and the weight loss is
steady but slow - around 1 pound per week.
I know - I know - this is good - but it never was this slow before I
fell off the wagon end of last year.
snip

It's refreshing to hear someone say they know that slow and steady is good.
If you think you should be losing a bit faster I'm just going to gently
remind you that calories do count. ) If you eat more calories than you
burn it really doesn't matter how low carb you eat you won't lose. Check
your calorie consumption and if it's too high either exercise more (best
choice) or eat less.
--
Jeri
"Change is inevitable, except from vending machines."

Thanks everyone for the support.
This week I'm lost zero pounds - but not down hearted as my belt is
suddenly looser.

Have a good weekend all!
Martin

Martin Barrett wrote:

This week I'm lost zero pounds - but not down hearted as my belt is
suddenly looser.

Celebrate that more than a lost pound! Seriously, how many
people diet to actually lose pounds not inches? The ones who
have health issues related to severe obesity not the folks with
50 or so to lose. For most size is the real end - slimmer body -
and the numbers on the scale are really an inaccurate side
effect of our size that just happens to be easy to measure.

I'll take a belt notch over a new low any day!