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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life thatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Hi there,
In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?", I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption. Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about. But Teena asked a very good question: "Do the people in the ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? " As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for this strange question, qhen they are upset: "What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one thing you would remove from your life right know if you could, regardless of the consequences?" I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their problems. But the question would be: Can you identify clearly this problem? I certainly can, in my case. Huey |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life thatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Hueyduck wrote in message ... "Do the people in the ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? " No, I didn't feel psychologically sick, but I felt physically sick. The reason I started LC was because of diabetes. "What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one thing you would remove from your life right know if you could, regardless of the consequences?" Diabetes. I could do without it, though I have to say it doesn't really make my life terribly difficult, I'd just rather not *have* to deal with it daily. :-) Can you identify clearly this problem? I certainly can, in my case. Mine too. Cheri |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their lifethatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Cheri a écrit :
Hueyduck wrote in message ... "Do the people in the ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? " No, I didn't feel psychologically sick, but I felt physically sick. The reason I started LC was because of diabetes. Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this: "I eat like a diabetic". This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no rice cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?). But when I imagine what it would be like to really be diabetic, I realize how irritatng it can get, sometimes. But maybe you don't qualify for this survey, Cheri:-) == you might not be fat Huey |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their lifethatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Hueyduck wrote in message ... But maybe you don't qualify for this survey, Cheri:-) == you might not be fat Huey No, I'm still overweight. I have 20-30 pounds to lose that I just never got around to losing after losing the initial 35 pounds. I started at 185 many years ago at 5'4" I am in a losing mode right now, due to going back to a weight loss group TOPS a couple of weeks ago. I am pretty much the only low carber there though. :-) Cheri |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life that could be a cause for the eating disorder?
"Hueyduck" Hi there, I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption. Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about. But Teena asked a very good question: "Do the people in the ng feel they were psychologically sick before they started low-carbing, or do they feel there was something else wrong that kept them overweight? " No. Nothing psychological--just a love of food. I didn't get fat until Uncle Sam sent me to Germany. Have you seen German food? Have you seen German bier? I found something called kaeseplunder and had at least 3 a day! And the bratwurst and schnitzel and kartoffeln and.... I could go on and on. I ate it all! And spatzel and gummi and... Pat in TX |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life that could be a cause for the eating disorder?
"Hueyduck" wrote in message ... Hi there, In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?", I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption. Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about. Well, whether you're right or wrong, I don't agree, so I guess I can't answer your question. As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for this strange question, qhen they are upset: "What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one thing you would remove from your life right know if you could, regardless of the consequences?" I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their problems. But the question would be: Can you identify clearly this problem? I certainly can, in my case. My life is far from perfect. I have a lot of personal problems to work through. I cannot look at my life, though, and see anything I want to throw away. I have many things I want and need to improve, and issues to work through, but nothing to toss. (I guess I'm a lucky guy.) For example, weight loss: Losing it slowly over a period of time takes great will and determination. When I'm at the end of this long and winding road, I'll be proud of myself for having taken on such a challenging task and having made such a great accomplishment. If I were to simply "remove the excess weight from my life right now regardless of the consequences", I will have lost not just the weight but so much more. Next time, turn your question around: "What is the one thing you would bring into your life, right now, regardless of the consequences?" In other words, who has their soul for sale, and for how much? |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their lifethat could be a cause for the eating disorder?
Hi, em, "Hueyduck" wrote in message ... Hi there, In an ongoing thread started by Teena " "Meridia -- does it work?", I explained to Teena how I would consider obesity to be the visible symptom a psychological problem. I think as eating disorder as a result of a addiction of some sort, much like alcoholism or tabacco consumption. Weither I am right or wrong is not what I was thinking about. Well, whether you're right or wrong, I don't agree, so I guess I can't answer your question. Well that's a strange answer to a strange survey ;-) As I told in the latter thread, I sometimes ask the people I care for this strange question, qhen they are upset: "What is the one thing that makes your life difficult to live, the one thing you would remove from your life right know if you could, regardless of the consequences?" I don't expect members of theis NG to expose the nature of their problems. But the question would be: Can you identify clearly this problem? I certainly can, in my case. My life is far from perfect. I have a lot of personal problems to work through. I cannot look at my life, though, and see anything I want to throw away. I have many things I want and need to improve, and issues to work through, but nothing to toss. (I guess I'm a lucky guy.) Indeed you are :-) For example, weight loss: Losing it slowly over a period of time takes great will and determination. When I'm at the end of this long and winding road, I'll be proud of myself for having taken on such a challenging task and having made such a great accomplishment. If I were to simply "remove the excess weight from my life right now regardless of the consequences", I will have lost not just the weight but so much more. I also think, sometimes, (and this is most weird to me), that I might well be missing the quest of losing fat, once I will have lost everything I need to drop. This thought reinforced the belief that I might be fat to keep someone with me, in the end, refusing to let this person go. Next time, turn your question around: "What is the one thing you would bring into your life, right now, regardless of the consequences?" In other words, who has their soul for sale, and for how much? I'm not sure I'm following you, here. But anyway, if someone's soul is here for sale, I'm not a buyer. One soul is already enough. Huey |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their life thatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Hueyduck writes:
Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this: "I eat like a diabetic". This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no rice cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?). That's what I thought I'd do too, but it turns out people have an even worse understanding of that than low-carb -- even some people who are diabetic themselves. After telling people I'm diabetic, I've been offered everything from baked potato to whole-wheat spaghetti to sugar-free pudding in a normal pie shell with Cool Whip. It hasn't helped as much as I expected. On a related note, why does it bother people so much to see a fat guy (I don't think fat women get the same treatment) not eating much? Are they afraid I just turned anorexic after a lifetime of pudgy? Do they assume I don't like their food, since a guy my size would *obviously* be stuffing himself if it were good? If my skin-and-bones cousin doesn't eat anything at all at a family gathering, no one will even notice; but if I don't go back for thirds, I get people reminding me there's plenty more. It's so backwards. I've gotten to where I can just smile and say I've had plenty, but it's still annoying to have to go through that every time. -- Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their lifethatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Aaron Baugher a écrit :
Hueyduck writes: Sometimes I sum up the way I eatlike this: "I eat like a diabetic". This explains everything to my friends(no sugar in your house? no rice cispies, no coke , no cookies, no bread?). That's what I thought I'd do too, but it turns out people have an even worse understanding of that than low-carb -- even some people who are diabetic themselves. After telling people I'm diabetic, I've been offered everything from baked potato to whole-wheat spaghetti to sugar-free pudding in a normal pie shell with Cool Whip. Gasp... :-) At least people here tend to know what a diabetic don't eat. It's the cholesterol part that is funny. My mother struggles against cholesterol by eating potatoes with margarine (yes, the transfat kind, of course). It's hard to make people understand that what promotes cholesterol in a sugary cream coffe is not the cream but the sugar. Lately the doctor of my mom finaly told her that the potatoes where not good for cholesterol. But a few years ago, I could still hear things like " 3to 4 eggs a week is the most one should have, because of the cholesterol risk". Mouahahahaha... Anyway... Now, I even found an easier way to let people know that thay won't find bread ion my house: I leave the ketostix in plain sight in the bathroom. Works like a charm. It hasn't helped as much as I expected. On a related note, why does it bother people so much to see a fat guy (I don't think fat women get the same treatment) not eating much? Are they afraid I just turned anorexic after a lifetime of pudgy? Do they assume I don't like their food, since a guy my size would *obviously* be stuffing himself if it were good? This is quite true. I guess that one assumes that if you are "big boned", you must eat much more than the skinny cousin (wich, on a primary level is true). And so, if you don't take seconds, it just means that you are shy or too polite to ask. If my skin-and-bones cousin doesn't eat anything at all at a family gathering, no one will even notice; but if I don't go back for thirds, I get people reminding me there's plenty more. I think that family is most likely to do that, don't you? It's so backwards. I've gotten to where I can just smile and say I've had plenty, but it's still annoying to have to go through that every time. I have an answer that is a bit harsh, but I try say it with a smile. When someone askes me again and again if I rrrreally don't want to finish the bowl of watchcallit, on the third time, I smile and I say "The fact that you're asking me three times will not change the fact that I'm not hungry anymore, you know". This phrase immediately says "Do you want to feed me or do you actually want me to make you happy licking your bowl?". Luckily, I don't have to use it too often. Huey |
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Do fat people in this NG have a main problem in their lifethatcould be a cause for the eating disorder?
Jackie Patti wrote in message ... My landlord knows my garden died because of my hospitalization. He keeps bringing me big batches of sweet corn. I know if I were to mention diabetes, I'd get a reply along the lines of, "Bob was diabetic and he always ate corn." So... I don't even bother explaining anymore. I just smile, thank him, and cook up the corn for my husband and daughter and compost the leftovers. Next year, they'll turn into chard and berries and bok choy in my own garden! It's often much easier just to do that, sort of like the well meaning people who bring cakes and cookies and things like that from the store, because it says sugar free on it. They just don't seem to comprehend the carb count on things, including some diabetics I know IRL. :-) Cheri |
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