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Lyle McDonald wrote:
roger wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:32:17 -0600, Lyle McDonald wrote: Tim Josling wrote: roger wrote: ... I think it is pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of people fare better on a diet that is balanced between carbs, protein and fat with most of the carbs coming from vegetables, fruits and unprocessed grains (brown rice, whole wheat bread/pasta, etc) and avoiding the processed carbs. Pasta is a highly processed food, as is bread. Wholemeal bread is almost as glycemic as white bread. don't try to introduce facts into roger the retard's nonsense. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:06:59 GMT, wrote: I must be doing something right. Lyle did not call me a butt****ing moron, moron, retard, ****tard, or whining bitch. Or maybe Lyle went back on his meds. Looks like Lyle is off his meds again. Oh well. Ah, the sign of a true mfw dip****. I haven't used meds for 2 years, ****wit. Only retards and dip****s keep bringing it up and think it is meaningful. Lyle does not agree that eating whole wheat bread/pasta is better than eating white bread/ regular pasta?? Where did I say any such thing? C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is b. so are breads I'd have to check the GI for wholemeal vs. white bread but it's not as different as yo'ud think. Yer turn, dumbass. Sorry, 3 more things. a. The only med I was ever one was Celexa. An SSRI. For seasonal depression. b. Your ad hominems are almost as pathetic as John Williams'. I still think his 'Thanks for showing us a manic depressive episode' in the bromocriptine wars last year has you beat, though. c. If you check Rick Mendosa's excellent GI list, you'll see that the difference in GI between white and wheat bread is about 10 points (lower for wheat, natch). GI only drops significantly if you are talking about the coarse types of wholemeal and rye breads and that's not what most people are eating. Obviously, if you're going to eat bread, wholewheat is better. But expecting it to have monstrously different effects on blood glucose regulation (esp. for a diabetic or prediabetic) is showing ignorance. IN this case, roger, yours. Lyle |
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C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that
a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? |
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"roger" wrote:
I am not sure why I originally put JW in my kill file. It is hard to keep all the net loons straight. I apologize if I am wrong but I think he is the guy who falsely accused me of posting under some other name. I correctly accused you of using a Giganews account to troll MFW under many, many names -- a new one every day. When you quit using that account, you started appearing regularly again ... as "roger." I think Keith Hobnob was the guy who originally falsely accused me of this. Then Keith apologized after another poster proved by doing a traceroute that I could not be the other poster. Keith owed you no apology. A traceroute to the location of the Giganews anonymized server tells one nothing, and Giganews does not reveal the originating IP address of its users. On the other hand, I was the first one who tagged your location as "roger" to the Honolulu area, a fact which you admitted was correct ... and your IP address still returns to Honolulu. Don't hide behind Keith's mistaken apology, roger. You're still a liar and a know-nothing. |
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"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message ... Lyle McDonald wrote: roger wrote: On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 00:32:17 -0600, Lyle McDonald wrote: Tim Josling wrote: roger wrote: ... I think it is pretty clear that the overwhelming majority of people fare better on a diet that is balanced between carbs, protein and fat with most of the carbs coming from vegetables, fruits and unprocessed grains (brown rice, whole wheat bread/pasta, etc) and avoiding the processed carbs. Pasta is a highly processed food, as is bread. Wholemeal bread is almost as glycemic as white bread. don't try to introduce facts into roger the retard's nonsense. On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:06:59 GMT, wrote: I must be doing something right. Lyle did not call me a butt****ing moron, moron, retard, ****tard, or whining bitch. Or maybe Lyle went back on his meds. Looks like Lyle is off his meds again. Oh well. Ah, the sign of a true mfw dip****. I haven't used meds for 2 years, ****wit. Only retards and dip****s keep bringing it up and think it is meaningful. Lyle does not agree that eating whole wheat bread/pasta is better than eating white bread/ regular pasta?? Where did I say any such thing? C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is b. so are breads I'd have to check the GI for wholemeal vs. white bread but it's not as different as yo'ud think. Yer turn, dumbass. Sorry, 3 more things. a. The only med I was ever one was Celexa. An SSRI. For seasonal depression. b. Your ad hominems are almost as pathetic as John Williams'. I still think his 'Thanks for showing us a manic depressive episode' in the bromocriptine wars last year has you beat, though. c. If you check Rick Mendosa's excellent GI list, you'll see that the difference in GI between white and wheat bread is about 10 points (lower for wheat, natch). GI only drops significantly if you are talking about the coarse types of wholemeal and rye breads and that's not what most people are eating. Obviously, if you're going to eat bread, wholewheat is better. But expecting it to have monstrously different effects on blood glucose regulation (esp. for a diabetic or prediabetic) is showing ignorance. IN this case, roger, yours. Lyle I have the International Table of glycemic index and glycemic load:2002 in front of me, (acjn) bread can have a GI between 27-95 (with glucose as the comparison) depends on what they are made from Barley breads/rye breads are awsome. -- Aaron |
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"gman99" wrote in message ... C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour? is it called, proccessing? |
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On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour? is it called, proccessing? It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground. -- jmk in NC |
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On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0500, jmk
wrote: On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour? is it called, proccessing? It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground. yeeesss...and what sort of action is grinding? Processing, maybe? |
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"Aaron" hunt354 at hotmail dot com wrote:
"gman99" wrote in message ... C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour? is it called, proccessing? In that sense you could say your water is processed if you are in any type of municipality...flour is nothing more than crushed grain... |
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Chupacabra wrote:
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0500, jmk wrote: On 12/30/2003 10:04 PM, Aaron wrote: "gman99" wrote in message ... C'mon, show me where I said it. I was agreeing that a. pasta is a highly processed food, which it is try homemade then...isn't pasta basically flour and water ? b. so are breads Again, flour water and yeast ? tell me, what is the thing that happens between the grain and the flour? is it called, proccessing? It's called grinding actually -- as in stone ground. yeeesss...and what sort of action is grinding? Processing, maybe? We're still talking two natural ingredients... |
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