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  #21  
Old August 27th, 2004, 12:30 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:34:00 GMT, "SusanLewis"
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Schools back in session and my 10th grader comes home with a 12 week long
project in her Health class. Her objective is to choose 1 topic from a
list
of many given to her and gather sources/research, apply them to herself,
chart/journal, discuss and write a paper on if any.. improvements or
disadvantages. From the list of assorted topics were things like..
Increasing exercise. Lowering salt intake. Lowering caffiene intake.
Increasing water intake. etc. There were alot of varied topics to pick
from.

She picked the water intake. So she is having to a.) drink more water. b.)
research its benefits on body functions c.) journal her intake. etc.
Huge applause to the education system as far as Health class is concerned
for doing something like this! This was unheard of when I was in school 20
years ago.

Anyone else seeing any positive changes in schools like this?


When I was in school, a bazillion years ago, anecdotal evidence was
never accepted as fact. Schools are a lot more lax than they used to
be.


Yeah, teaching students to conduct and report on their own research is a
terrible thing. They might learn how to think and draw conclusions and all
that horrible stuff. Better to give them a standardized, canned curriculum
so they become good little worker drones that follow orders well....

Jenn


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Old August 27th, 2004, 12:30 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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On Wed, 25 Aug 2004 19:34:00 GMT, "SusanLewis"
wrote:

Schools back in session and my 10th grader comes home with a 12 week long
project in her Health class. Her objective is to choose 1 topic from a
list
of many given to her and gather sources/research, apply them to herself,
chart/journal, discuss and write a paper on if any.. improvements or
disadvantages. From the list of assorted topics were things like..
Increasing exercise. Lowering salt intake. Lowering caffiene intake.
Increasing water intake. etc. There were alot of varied topics to pick
from.

She picked the water intake. So she is having to a.) drink more water. b.)
research its benefits on body functions c.) journal her intake. etc.
Huge applause to the education system as far as Health class is concerned
for doing something like this! This was unheard of when I was in school 20
years ago.

Anyone else seeing any positive changes in schools like this?


When I was in school, a bazillion years ago, anecdotal evidence was
never accepted as fact. Schools are a lot more lax than they used to
be.


Yeah, teaching students to conduct and report on their own research is a
terrible thing. They might learn how to think and draw conclusions and all
that horrible stuff. Better to give them a standardized, canned curriculum
so they become good little worker drones that follow orders well....

Jenn


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Old August 27th, 2004, 12:35 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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I challenge anyone to find a teenager who has tasted pheasant, quail,
goat (hispanics don't count), mutton (native americans don't count),


Maybe you need to be a little more specific about which Native Americans
you're referring to. The kids I know wouldn't have tasted mutton (stingy
and nasty anyway).

When was the last time you ate bear or muskie?

Most people have not concept of what good food even tastes like.


Good is in the eye of the beholder. I would imagine that most non-hunters
would find it difficult or very expensive to get pheasant or quail, and last
I checked our markets or butchers up here only carry goat cheese, not the
whole goat. These kinds of experiences are usually done when traveling and
depending on your income bracket might not get to happen by the time one is
a teenager.

Jenn


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Old August 27th, 2004, 12:35 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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I challenge anyone to find a teenager who has tasted pheasant, quail,
goat (hispanics don't count), mutton (native americans don't count),


Maybe you need to be a little more specific about which Native Americans
you're referring to. The kids I know wouldn't have tasted mutton (stingy
and nasty anyway).

When was the last time you ate bear or muskie?

Most people have not concept of what good food even tastes like.


Good is in the eye of the beholder. I would imagine that most non-hunters
would find it difficult or very expensive to get pheasant or quail, and last
I checked our markets or butchers up here only carry goat cheese, not the
whole goat. These kinds of experiences are usually done when traveling and
depending on your income bracket might not get to happen by the time one is
a teenager.

Jenn


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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:03 PM
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On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 09:59:07 +0200, "Lictor"
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My 11 y.o. sister does like things like garlic, sauerkraut,
red cabbage, real fish (not the square things with 30% fish and 70% fat and
starch)...


My best friends' daughter, from the age of 5 or so, would charm sushi
chefs by sitting at the counter with her parents and ordering all
sorts of sushi by its Japanese names. They have always fed her adult
food and taken her to restaurants with us, and her taste is as
far-ranging as mine (which does extend well beyond poached eggs on
toast :-) ).

Chris
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:12 PM
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On 27 Aug 2004 10:59:46 GMT, Ignoramus24885
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In article , Auntie Em wrote:
I challenge anyone to find a teenager who has tasted pheasant, quail,
goat (hispanics don't count), mutton (native americans don't count),
or even GAR fish! (poor sountherners don't count).


I saw such a teenager on Wednesday...

i


My best friends' daughter -- just mentioned in a previous response to
Lictor -- has eaten all of these things. I've seen her do so; we dine
out together often. One of the restaurants we enjoy going to together
specializes in wild game, and we routinely have game birds, venison,
ostrich, and have had alligator and rattlesnake. She eats all sorts
of fish and loves sushi and sashimi. Recently the family spent a
couple of months in Portugal, and she came back a big fan of Portugese
fish dishes. Her father is of Swiss ancestry and they've always eaten
lots of Swiss specialities.

I'll grant that her tastes are unusually broad, but I don't think
A.E.'s generalization is all that valid.

Chris (who has eaten all these too -- prefers lamb to mutton, though)
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:12 PM
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On 27 Aug 2004 10:59:46 GMT, Ignoramus24885
wrote:

In article , Auntie Em wrote:
I challenge anyone to find a teenager who has tasted pheasant, quail,
goat (hispanics don't count), mutton (native americans don't count),
or even GAR fish! (poor sountherners don't count).


I saw such a teenager on Wednesday...

i


My best friends' daughter -- just mentioned in a previous response to
Lictor -- has eaten all of these things. I've seen her do so; we dine
out together often. One of the restaurants we enjoy going to together
specializes in wild game, and we routinely have game birds, venison,
ostrich, and have had alligator and rattlesnake. She eats all sorts
of fish and loves sushi and sashimi. Recently the family spent a
couple of months in Portugal, and she came back a big fan of Portugese
fish dishes. Her father is of Swiss ancestry and they've always eaten
lots of Swiss specialities.

I'll grant that her tastes are unusually broad, but I don't think
A.E.'s generalization is all that valid.

Chris (who has eaten all these too -- prefers lamb to mutton, though)
262/141/ (145-150)
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Old August 27th, 2004, 01:32 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
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I'm not sure what projects they have in their health classes but I was
impressed with the physical education courses available to my
granddaughters. Here's a list of them from the school website. IIRC the
granddaughters indicated they were required to take 1-2 courses each

year.


Basic Health Gymnastics Apparatus
Athletic Training Total Fitness
CPR/First Aid Introduction to Weight Training
Human Sexuality Weight Training II
Thanatology Weight Training III
Heritage of Movement/Physical Education Survey Outdoor Education I
PE Independent Study Outdoor Education II
Archery I Recreational Activities
Archery II Basic Juggling
Badminton I Roller Skating
Badminton II Fitness Walking
Basketball I Slim Aerobics
Basketball II Introduction to Soccer
Fencing I Softball
Fencing II Tennis I
Sabre Tennis II
Flag Football Track and Field
Golf I Volleyball I
Golf II Volleyball II
Basic Gymnastics
Tumbling I
Tumbling II


What do the poor children do who prefer more refined activities such
as reading, writing poety, playing music do? Do they have mandatory
classes in these subjects as well?

Sounds a little one-sided ot me.

Em


These are only the physical education courses - after all we're discussing
health related matters not the academic courses available. But just to put
your mind at ease, the academic courses are excellent.

Beverly





The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents,
and the second half by our children.
--- Clarence Darrow
(make that YOUR children).



  #29  
Old August 27th, 2004, 01:32 PM
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"Auntie Em" wrote in message
news
I'm not sure what projects they have in their health classes but I was
impressed with the physical education courses available to my
granddaughters. Here's a list of them from the school website. IIRC the
granddaughters indicated they were required to take 1-2 courses each

year.


Basic Health Gymnastics Apparatus
Athletic Training Total Fitness
CPR/First Aid Introduction to Weight Training
Human Sexuality Weight Training II
Thanatology Weight Training III
Heritage of Movement/Physical Education Survey Outdoor Education I
PE Independent Study Outdoor Education II
Archery I Recreational Activities
Archery II Basic Juggling
Badminton I Roller Skating
Badminton II Fitness Walking
Basketball I Slim Aerobics
Basketball II Introduction to Soccer
Fencing I Softball
Fencing II Tennis I
Sabre Tennis II
Flag Football Track and Field
Golf I Volleyball I
Golf II Volleyball II
Basic Gymnastics
Tumbling I
Tumbling II


What do the poor children do who prefer more refined activities such
as reading, writing poety, playing music do? Do they have mandatory
classes in these subjects as well?

Sounds a little one-sided ot me.

Em


These are only the physical education courses - after all we're discussing
health related matters not the academic courses available. But just to put
your mind at ease, the academic courses are excellent.

Beverly





The first half of our lives is ruined by our parents,
and the second half by our children.
--- Clarence Darrow
(make that YOUR children).



  #30  
Old August 27th, 2004, 01:45 PM
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"Ignoramus30209" wrote in message
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In article , Chris Braun
wrote:
On 27 Aug 2004 10:59:46 GMT, Ignoramus24885
wrote:

In article , Auntie Em wrote:
I challenge anyone to find a teenager who has tasted pheasant, quail,
goat (hispanics don't count), mutton (native americans don't count),
or even GAR fish! (poor sountherners don't count).

I saw such a teenager on Wednesday...

i


My best friends' daughter -- just mentioned in a previous response to
Lictor -- has eaten all of these things. I've seen her do so; we dine
out together often. One of the restaurants we enjoy going to together
specializes in wild game, and we routinely have game birds, venison,
ostrich, and have had alligator and rattlesnake. She eats all sorts
of fish and loves sushi and sashimi. Recently the family spent a
couple of months in Portugal, and she came back a big fan of Portugese
fish dishes. Her father is of Swiss ancestry and they've always eaten
lots of Swiss specialities.

I'll grant that her tastes are unusually broad, but I don't think
A.E.'s generalization is all that valid.

Chris (who has eaten all these too -- prefers lamb to mutton, though)
262/141/ (145-150)


Good for you! I never tried a rattlesnake, but I tried eating frogs,
wild duck, venison and squirrels.


Rattlesnake tastes like chicken (LOL).

That teenager that I mentioned, is a son of my friends. I visited them
on Wednesday. They regularly eat lamb, venison, wild duck etc, because
my friend and that teenager hunt.


That was the point I was trying to make earlier - if you don't hunt, access
to these kinds of things are limited unless you happen to have restaurants
in the area that serve them and you can afford to go there.

I also bought 15 Amish chickens, about 5.85 per 6 lb chickens, very
clean and plump looking. Those are also free ranging. Their livers
look very different from regular chicken livers, they are bigger and
paler.

i


We get Amish chicken up here. It's a better quality of meat and has been
fed a vegetarian diet with no antibiotics. I once served up the Amish
chicken side by side with the "factory farmed" brand and there was a
definite taste difference in addition to the pre-cooking appearance, etc.

Jenn


 




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