Trans Fat?

Ron Peterson wrote:
On Mar 27, 7:29 am, Marshall Price wrote:

I saw that before, but it's just one study. What I'd really like is a
big-picture overview of trans fats in general.

The books on the subject don't seem to cover the big picture
adequately.

What about a database of common fats in nutrition and the fatty acids
they contain?

Incidentally, I opened that can of coconut milk and drank the whole
thing in one night. Not a good idea! I regretted it the following day.

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Marshall Price of Miami
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On Mar 28, 8:19*pm, Marshall Price wrote:
Ron Peterson wrote:

Ruminants has there trans fats from bacterial action in their rumen.

I didn't know that. *Do they enter the circulation?

Sure, butterfat has those trans fats. The problem with ruminants is
that the healthy fats (omega 6 and omega 3) get converted to saturated
fats.

Omega 6 fatty acids are important for skin health and inflammatory
response. It's not quite clear how much omega 6 is too much and
whether trans fats change that need.

Do you disagree with the notions that (1) a ratio of n-6 to n-3 fats of
20 or more is too high, and (2) that a ratio of about 3 is better?

I am not sure that looking at the ratio is the right approach since
there is a need for the omega 3 fatty acids which is more important
than the actual ratio. If one is taking 5 g/day of omega 3, a 20 to
one ratio would up the fat intake to over 100 g/day which although in
the realm of average fatty acid intake would be hard to do without
taking in a similar amount of saturated and monounsaturated fatty
acids.

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Ron

On Mar 28, 8:23*pm, Marshall Price wrote:

What about a database of common fats in nutrition and the fatty acids
they contain?

They're good as far as they go.

Incidentally, I opened that can of coconut milk and drank the whole
thing in one night. *Not a good idea! *I regretted it the following day.

Coconut macaroons seem to work for reestablishing normal bowel
movements.

Primate studies have shown that omega 3 and omega 6 fatty acids are
the only ones that don't induce atherosclerotic lesions.

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Ron

Ron Peterson wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:23 pm, Marshall Price wrote:

What about a database of common fats in nutrition and the fatty acids
they contain?

They're good as far as they go.

What I meant was to inquire whether you know of any free online
databases like that, and to ask you to provide a link or two to them.

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Marshall Price of Miami
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On Mar 30, 3:30*pm, Marshall Price wrote:
Ron Peterson wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:23 pm, Marshall Price wrote:

* *What I meant was to inquire whether you know of any free online
databases like that, and to ask you to provide a link or two to them.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/tools/nutrient-search looks pretty good
because it can give nutrients for a fixed calorie portion.

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Ron

Ron Peterson wrote:
On Mar 30, 3:30 pm, Marshall Price wrote:
Ron Peterson wrote:
On Mar 28, 8:23 pm, Marshall Price wrote:

What I meant was to inquire whether you know of any free online
databases like that, and to ask you to provide a link or two to them.

http://www.nutritiondata.com/tools/nutrient-search looks pretty good
because it can give nutrients for a fixed calorie portion.

Brrrrrrilliant!

But I suspect it's based on "Nutrition Facts" panels. When I looked for
foods with maximum trans fatty acids and minimum total fat, all the
listings contained integral values for trans fatty acids in grams.

They say:

"You'll find a line for "Total trans fats" near the bottom of the "Fats
and Fatty Acids" table in the "Nutrients per Serving" section of our
analysis. However, we don't yet have trans fat data for most foods in
our system. Our data is provided by the USDA, restaurants, and food
manufacturers, and they are just starting to measure this nutrient."

It would be nice to get data from more scientific sources, and to be
able to download the database, but thanks a lot for that link, Ron.

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Marshall Price of Miami
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