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Old August 3rd, 2004, 11:52 PM
DG511
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob

writes:

I'm saying it was a fad diet 30 years ago that didn't work "long term"
and it's still a fad diet 30 years later that won't work "long term".


We've got people who've been on it for several years.

It's a quick fix with stories all over about people who have lost, then
gained, then lost again, then gained everything back plus more.


Not stories all over. A few stories, but not many. At least 80 percent of all
dieters fail, and most diets these days are low-fat.

Fad diets that require foods or food groups to be cut from the diet are
the most likely to fail. Wouldn't that make them the hardest diets?


No, not if you found that you preferred the new way of eating. I find this
much easier than you could possibly imagine. My appetite has diminished, and
my weight has followed. I feel healthier than ever. I'm not missing the baked
goods and pasta I used to live on, and I prefer the foods I'm eating now.

Why do people that have failed already think they should try one of the
hardest diets?


I haven't failed, and this diet isn't hard.

Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.


No, there is no one diet that works for all people. This worked for me,
because I reduced calories by virtue of a reduced appetite. I never counted
calories at all.

You, in the mean time, have become increasingly trollish. You haven't done
your own research, and you haven't paid attention to what people here have told
you. So I think you're going into the killfile. Bye.


Daria
166/under 145/under 145
sugar-free since 2/1/04
low-carb since 2/17/04

  #22  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:03 AM
FOB
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

No diet works long term. Only changing the way one eats all the time works
long term. For me, and many others here, low carb is the easiest plan to
follow. What makes you think you are an expert on something you have never
done in contrast to the many people here who have done it with very positive
results.

In ,
Rob stated
| I'm saying it was a fad diet 30 years ago that didn't work "long term"
| and it's still a fad diet 30 years later that won't work "long term".
| It's a quick fix with stories all over about people who have lost,
| then gained, then lost again, then gained everything back plus more.
|
| Fad diets that require foods or food groups to be cut from the diet
| are the most likely to fail. Wouldn't that make them the hardest
| diets? Why do people that have failed already think they should try
| one of the hardest diets?
|
| Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.
|
| Cheri wrote:
|
|| That could be said for any diet. Where are all the thin people from
|| (insert any diet here) I don't understand what you're trying to say.
|| Do you?
||
|| --
|| Cheri
|| Type 2, no meds for now.
||
||
||| "Rob" wrote in message
||| ...
|||
|||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
||
|| Dr.
||
|||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
|||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
|||| run, the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
||
|| followers
||
|||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
|||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long
||
|| term
||
|||| weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure
||
|| to
||
|||| obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight
||
|| loss
||
|||| industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow
||
|| fatter.


  #23  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:03 AM
FOB
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

No diet works long term. Only changing the way one eats all the time works
long term. For me, and many others here, low carb is the easiest plan to
follow. What makes you think you are an expert on something you have never
done in contrast to the many people here who have done it with very positive
results.

In ,
Rob stated
| I'm saying it was a fad diet 30 years ago that didn't work "long term"
| and it's still a fad diet 30 years later that won't work "long term".
| It's a quick fix with stories all over about people who have lost,
| then gained, then lost again, then gained everything back plus more.
|
| Fad diets that require foods or food groups to be cut from the diet
| are the most likely to fail. Wouldn't that make them the hardest
| diets? Why do people that have failed already think they should try
| one of the hardest diets?
|
| Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.
|
| Cheri wrote:
|
|| That could be said for any diet. Where are all the thin people from
|| (insert any diet here) I don't understand what you're trying to say.
|| Do you?
||
|| --
|| Cheri
|| Type 2, no meds for now.
||
||
||| "Rob" wrote in message
||| ...
|||
|||| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
||
|| Dr.
||
|||| Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
|||| concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long
|||| run, the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The
||
|| followers
||
|||| would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
|||| eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long
||
|| term
||
|||| weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure
||
|| to
||
|||| obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight
||
|| loss
||
|||| industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow
||
|| fatter.


  #24  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:21 AM
Loser
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades. Dr.
Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long run,
the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The followers
would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long term
weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure to
obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight loss
industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow fatter.


Low-carb solutions cannot overcome desire for instant gratification. No
plan will work in the long-term if it isn't incorporated into a lifestyle.
Diet vs. WOE. Simple as that.

Loser


  #25  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:21 AM
Loser
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?


"Rob" wrote in message
...
Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades. Dr.
Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long run,
the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The followers
would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long term
weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure to
obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight loss
industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow fatter.


Low-carb solutions cannot overcome desire for instant gratification. No
plan will work in the long-term if it isn't incorporated into a lifestyle.
Diet vs. WOE. Simple as that.

Loser


  #26  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:25 AM
DigitalVinyl
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob wrote:

Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.


I'm in the mood for responding to a troll--just in that argumentative
kind of mood.

Counting calories IS a diet plan, genius. And like all those "fad"
diets you lose and then you gain back. Unless you count calories every
day until you are in the grave you run the risk of gaining it all back
or more. Most people, on every diet plan, gain weight back eventually.
Eventually willpower caves, **** happens, health problems arise and if
you are part of the poopulation that has a natural tendency for
overweight your body will put it back on.

You are an idiot who hasn't researched anything. You like many doctors
ignore obvious biological problems because fat people are just stupid
gluttons who are looking for a quick fix.

Unlike your "count calories" method, Atkins actually addresses why
your hungry and doesn't simply say you eat "this" much then have to
stop no matter what. He addresses how the body reacts to foods,
allergies, and why some people get abnormal cravings.


And you might notice that the boom in obesity coincided with the
gov.&medical establishment's acceptance of FDA/AMA recommendation on
what a healthy diet is and how bad all fats are(which is how it was
originally). In the last 30 years there have also been repeated
exercise booms... anyone recall Jane Fonda, Susan Powder, Richard
Simmons, bowflex, and the explosion of gyms all over the country. All
of these occurred yet american health and obesity continued to pork
up. How can it be that there are more home gyms, Ballys, dieting
plans, dieting companies, diet foods, and everything under the sun --
yet people get fatter. They must all not work. Exercise doesn't work.
Weight Watchers doesnt' work, slimfast doesn't work, Richard Simmons
doesn't work.

Amazing how statistics can be used to propose a lie, isn't it?




Cheri wrote:

That could be said for any diet. Where are all the thin people from
(insert any diet here) I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do
you?

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.


Dr.

Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long run,
the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The


followers

would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long


term

weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure


to

obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight


loss

industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow


fatter.





DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/276/Jul-269/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint.-70 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)
  #27  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:25 AM
DigitalVinyl
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob wrote:

Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.


I'm in the mood for responding to a troll--just in that argumentative
kind of mood.

Counting calories IS a diet plan, genius. And like all those "fad"
diets you lose and then you gain back. Unless you count calories every
day until you are in the grave you run the risk of gaining it all back
or more. Most people, on every diet plan, gain weight back eventually.
Eventually willpower caves, **** happens, health problems arise and if
you are part of the poopulation that has a natural tendency for
overweight your body will put it back on.

You are an idiot who hasn't researched anything. You like many doctors
ignore obvious biological problems because fat people are just stupid
gluttons who are looking for a quick fix.

Unlike your "count calories" method, Atkins actually addresses why
your hungry and doesn't simply say you eat "this" much then have to
stop no matter what. He addresses how the body reacts to foods,
allergies, and why some people get abnormal cravings.


And you might notice that the boom in obesity coincided with the
gov.&medical establishment's acceptance of FDA/AMA recommendation on
what a healthy diet is and how bad all fats are(which is how it was
originally). In the last 30 years there have also been repeated
exercise booms... anyone recall Jane Fonda, Susan Powder, Richard
Simmons, bowflex, and the explosion of gyms all over the country. All
of these occurred yet american health and obesity continued to pork
up. How can it be that there are more home gyms, Ballys, dieting
plans, dieting companies, diet foods, and everything under the sun --
yet people get fatter. They must all not work. Exercise doesn't work.
Weight Watchers doesnt' work, slimfast doesn't work, Richard Simmons
doesn't work.

Amazing how statistics can be used to propose a lie, isn't it?




Cheri wrote:

That could be said for any diet. Where are all the thin people from
(insert any diet here) I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do
you?

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.


Dr.

Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long run,
the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The


followers

would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long


term

weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure


to

obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight


loss

industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow


fatter.





DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/276/Jul-269/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint.-70 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)
  #28  
Old August 4th, 2004, 12:25 AM
DigitalVinyl
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob wrote:

Count calories. It's the only way to succeed, that's the bottom line.


I'm in the mood for responding to a troll--just in that argumentative
kind of mood.

Counting calories IS a diet plan, genius. And like all those "fad"
diets you lose and then you gain back. Unless you count calories every
day until you are in the grave you run the risk of gaining it all back
or more. Most people, on every diet plan, gain weight back eventually.
Eventually willpower caves, **** happens, health problems arise and if
you are part of the poopulation that has a natural tendency for
overweight your body will put it back on.

You are an idiot who hasn't researched anything. You like many doctors
ignore obvious biological problems because fat people are just stupid
gluttons who are looking for a quick fix.

Unlike your "count calories" method, Atkins actually addresses why
your hungry and doesn't simply say you eat "this" much then have to
stop no matter what. He addresses how the body reacts to foods,
allergies, and why some people get abnormal cravings.


And you might notice that the boom in obesity coincided with the
gov.&medical establishment's acceptance of FDA/AMA recommendation on
what a healthy diet is and how bad all fats are(which is how it was
originally). In the last 30 years there have also been repeated
exercise booms... anyone recall Jane Fonda, Susan Powder, Richard
Simmons, bowflex, and the explosion of gyms all over the country. All
of these occurred yet american health and obesity continued to pork
up. How can it be that there are more home gyms, Ballys, dieting
plans, dieting companies, diet foods, and everything under the sun --
yet people get fatter. They must all not work. Exercise doesn't work.
Weight Watchers doesnt' work, slimfast doesn't work, Richard Simmons
doesn't work.

Amazing how statistics can be used to propose a lie, isn't it?




Cheri wrote:

That could be said for any diet. Where are all the thin people from
(insert any diet here) I don't understand what you're trying to say. Do
you?

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.


"Rob" wrote in message
...

Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.


Dr.

Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the same
concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the long run,
the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary. The


followers

would have actually been capable of maintaining weight loss by
eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their long


term

weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as the cure


to

obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear, the weight


loss

industry continues to get richer, and America continues to grow


fatter.





DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
350/276/Jul-269/200
Atkins since Jan 12, 2004
Maint.-70 carbs/day (CCLL=50-60)
  #29  
Old August 4th, 2004, 02:15 AM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob wrote:
|| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
|| Dr. Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the
|| same concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the
|| long run, the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary.
|| The followers would have actually been capable of maintaining weight
|| loss by eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their
|| long term weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as
|| the cure to obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear,
|| the weight loss industry continues to get richer, and America
|| continues to grow fatter.

The plan works if the user follows it. If the user doesn't follow it for 25
years, then they will regain the weight.

This is true of any plan for weight loss, even down to eat less and exercise
more.

So, again, what in the hell is your point?


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Old August 4th, 2004, 02:15 AM
Roger Zoul
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Default Where are all the thin poeple from Atkins first book?

Rob wrote:
|| Low carbohydrate diet regimens have been in existence for decades.
|| Dr. Atkins published his first book back in the 70's based on the
|| same concepts as his current book. If these plans worked in the
|| long run, the release of new diet books wouldn't even be necessary.
|| The followers would have actually been capable of maintaining weight
|| loss by eliminating high carbohydrate foods for over 25 years. Their
|| long term weight loss success stories would have spread worldwide as
|| the cure to obesity. Paradoxically, as more and more diets appear,
|| the weight loss industry continues to get richer, and America
|| continues to grow fatter.

The plan works if the user follows it. If the user doesn't follow it for 25
years, then they will regain the weight.

This is true of any plan for weight loss, even down to eat less and exercise
more.

So, again, what in the hell is your point?


 




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