Carbohydrates offer some help in muscle protein synthesis, but not enough for the desired effect

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David wrote:

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job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor. I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle

Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except the

part

where you are a prick

Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.


no no that;s not what makes you a prick - you can be foul mouthed and
belligerent all you like - I got no problem with that. What makes you
loathesome (to me) is this proclivity you seem to have for wanting to
ridicule people that you perceive to be dumber than you are. To try to big
note yourself by putting someone else down. We had a professor like that -
got a kick out of humiliating students (other than the ones who fed his
ego) - he was generally known as a goose (an Aussie term for an asshole) .
I loathe people who try to put others down - who think somehow they are
superior because they know more in whatever narrow focus they happen to
specialize in.


A. You might note that I don't give **** what you or anybody else think
of me. Like me, don't like me, I honestly don't care. If I did, I'd
act a lot differently than I do.

B. As well, the original poster was making a post as if it was something
meaningful. People like that, who are unaware of their own
incompetency, should be shot down as far as I'm concerned.

You'll note that I generally try not to harsh people for ignorance (not
knowing becuse I don't know 99.9% of what's oon teh planet either), I
will harsh them for stupidity (and that includes feigning competence
where it doesn't exist, see any post by DRS, Hudson or a number of other
MFW regulars).

So if a newbie had asked "I've heard conflicting things about eating
carbs with protein, what's the deal?" they would get a different answer
than someone posting some stupid ****ing article that is demonstrating
something we knew 15 years ago and thinking they are saying something
meaningful.

So say I was a teacher and an undergrad asked a queston that we hadn't
covered. I wouldn't harsh them, they are simply ignorant. They can't
be expected to know something that hasn't been covered yet.

But say I was a teacher at the graduate level and someone made a
statment that is completely stupid, showing a total non-understanding of
basic information (that they are supposed to know). I would tear them a
new asshole. And they would deserve it. And if they were anything but
a crybaby pussy, they would take something valuable from the lesson.

it's the difference between a client asking a question (ignorance) and a
trainer making statements of utter stupidity. The first doesn't get
reamed out, the second one does.

Same for someone pretending to know more about something than they
actually did (My mom, a professor, just dealt with one of her graduate
students in this fashion; he would spout off like he was more
knowledgeable than he was and she shot his ass down like he DESERVED).

Unnerstand the distinction?

Sure.

Like the Barney in Good Will Hunting.

Our boy is wicked smart.

:^)

--
Dawn's cold kiss calls me
Forth I creep, blindly stumbling
Joy: Morning workouts.
Hugh Beyer's 'Haiku On Returning To Weights'

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job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor.
I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle

Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not
the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except the

part

where you are a prick

Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.


no no that;s not what makes you a prick - you can be foul mouthed and
belligerent all you like - I got no problem with that. What makes you
loathesome (to me) is this proclivity you seem to have for wanting to
ridicule people that you perceive to be dumber than you are. To try to
big
note yourself by putting someone else down. We had a professor like
that -
got a kick out of humiliating students (other than the ones who fed his
ego) - he was generally known as a goose (an Aussie term for an asshole)
..
I loathe people who try to put others down - who think somehow they are
superior because they know more in whatever narrow focus they happen to
specialize in.


A. You might note that I don't give **** what you or anybody else think
of me. Like me, don't like me, I honestly don't care. If I did, I'd
act a lot differently than I do.

B. As well, the original poster was making a post as if it was something
meaningful. People like that, who are unaware of their own
incompetency, should be shot down as far as I'm concerned.

You'll note that I generally try not to harsh people for ignorance (not
knowing becuse I don't know 99.9% of what's oon teh planet either), I
will harsh them for stupidity (and that includes feigning competence
where it doesn't exist, see any post by DRS, Hudson or a number of other
MFW regulars).

So if a newbie had asked "I've heard conflicting things about eating
carbs with protein, what's the deal?" they would get a different answer
than someone posting some stupid ****ing article that is demonstrating
something we knew 15 years ago and thinking they are saying something
meaningful.

So say I was a teacher and an undergrad asked a queston that we hadn't
covered. I wouldn't harsh them, they are simply ignorant. They can't
be expected to know something that hasn't been covered yet.

But say I was a teacher at the graduate level and someone made a
statment that is completely stupid, showing a total non-understanding of
basic information (that they are supposed to know). I would tear them a
new asshole. And they would deserve it. And if they were anything but
a crybaby pussy, they would take something valuable from the lesson.

it's the difference between a client asking a question (ignorance) and a
trainer making statements of utter stupidity. The first doesn't get
reamed out, the second one does.

Same for someone pretending to know more about something than they
actually did (My mom, a professor, just dealt with one of her graduate
students in this fashion; he would spout off like he was more
knowledgeable than he was and she shot his ass down like he DESERVED).

Unnerstand the distinction?

Lyle


Methinkth the young fellow doth protetht to much.
Hate to mention it, but your group maturity is showing.
(no response required, thanks, i'm done. bye)

DRS wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote in message


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You can killfile me just as easily as anybody else cn killfile me.
I have no obligation to you or anyone to post in any way that I don't
like.

If you don't like it, killfile me and don't read me.

BTW, as someone pointed out to me a while back, there is humorous
irony
in the fact that:

a. the people who like what I have to say read me
b. the people who don't like it read me more

If you truly didn't like me, or my posting style, or whatever, you'd
killfile me and be done with it. Instead you carefully read every
post
I make just so you can bitch.

Curious, isn't it?


It's not half as curious as your lack of logic for someone who claims to be
so smart. First of all, you do assume an obligation when you participate in
a communal forum such as this. If nothing else, a truly intelligent person
would take care over their form

How so?
I'm neither paying nor being paid, I and everyone else here choose to do
so by our own volition. I signed no paper stating a certain set of
rules was to be followed and no agreement. I an under no obligation to
anyone.

atting if only out of self-interest, even
though the proper reason would be out of consideration for others, but you
and a fair number of other people in here clearly aren't even that smart.

It's got nothing to do with smarts: we don't give a **** about others.

You have just as much an obligation in here to do the right thing by others
as you do elsewhere.

No I don't and you're repeating that doesn't change that.

I have the same freedom of speech as you and everone else here does.

That some whiny little bitch doesn't LIKE it doesn't change anything.

NOW, if I were on a forum where I had clicked on an 'agree to follow
such and such rules' thing and I wasn't following them, you'd have a
point. As usual, you're just making it up as you go along.

And, again, if you do'nt like how I play, you can always killfile me.

You remind me of the dip****s who always complain about folks Howard
Stern, yet continue to listen to him continually. You have all the
control in this matter to not read my posts, nobody is forcing you.

By your ****ed up logic, I can just as easily argue that in CHOOSING to
read my postts you are OBLIGATING yourself to deal with the
consequences. Except that I'm right and your moronic bull**** about how
my choice to interact in a free forum somehow obligates me to act in a
certain way is just the rantings of a delusional troll ****wit.

Face it, you just want an excuse to white and bitch and moan and I'm as
good a stimulus for that as anyone else. If it wasn't me, you'd be
whining about something else and we all know it. Just like the majority
of other pussies on the planet. They'd rather whine than do anything
real (doing anything real means killfiling me in this case so you don't
have to read my posts). But you wo'nt do that, will you.

You'd rather bitch and whine and moan than do anything about the
problem. I suggest you go to one of the alt.support.groups.

You and everybody else
who does it would benefit if you formatted properly as your posts would be
easier to read and you'd have a better chance of getting across what you
want to say but you lot seem more intent of spewing out words for the sake
of it than communicating efficiently.

Perhaps. Or maybe I don't care. Or maybe I do it deliberately to ****
you off. Or maybe all three. You'll never know will you.

But you'll continue to read me and respond and bitch and whine won't you?

Lyle

Keith Hobman wrote:

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snipping so DRS won't whine

Unnerstand the distinction?


Sure.

Like the Barney in Good Will Hunting.

here's an example of a time it happened to me.

I'm in grad school, in advanced exercise physiology. I took issue with
a comment my teacher had made about some enzyme or another (I think I
thought it was fructose-6-phospate and he thought it was something
else). I tell him I'll look it up. So at the next week of class he asks
me if I looked it up. I hadn't and told him.

He said "That means you know you're wrong."

Damn if he wasn't 100% correct and if he didn't shut me down completely.
And deservedly so.

Now, a crybaby pussy would have gotten his panties all twisted about
this. But since I'm not a crybaby pussy, I learned a valuable lesson:
don't shoot your ****ing mouth off about someting if you're not sure
you're right.

At a later date, a different issue had come up, basically my moron
classmates were 100% wrong about something that they should have learned
in undergrad exercise physiology (it had to do with how muscle grows:
whether it's adding sarcomeres in series or in parallel and they were
ALL wrong about it and I was right). So something else came up in class
and they thought they had me, kept asking the professor a badly worded
question. I knew exactly where they were going but he couldn't get it.

I asked him if I could explain. He said "ARe you sure you're right?"

Yes, give me the chalk.

I lectured the class for 10 minutes, was clearly right.

And that's a big part of why all my classmates hated me.

Because, like the crybaby pussies they all apparently were, they choose
to get all twitty and intimidated by the fact that I had had 10+ years
of time in the field to improve my knowledge base compared to theirs
(this isn't including the fact that some seemed totally clueless about
stuff they should have learned in undergrad anyhow; the difference
between ignorance and stupidity again).

Now, when I'm in that situation, I'll pick that person's brain about it.
If they know more than me about something, I'll use them to my
advantage and get their knowledge. These guys had too much ego for
that, decided to just shun me. Whatever, I wasn't there to make friends
and didnt' care if they liked me or not so their bull**** was of no
concern to me.

unfortunately I was there to learn and I wasn't doing that either....

Lyle

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:33:18 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

geek_girl wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote:

David wrote:

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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What wake up call? I'm eminently happy with my life. Book sales
(BTW, I
don't personal train for money anymore, I train people who are worth my
time to train and the lesbians make the cut) allow me to **** off all
day long. I don't have to wake up at any set hours or go to a
deadening
job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor. I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle



Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except
the part
where you are a prick



Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.

It's the other stuff you have your head up your ass about.

Lyle


I think he's still going by the old theory that people who are foul
mouthed and belligerent are putting up a facade to conceal their low
self-esteem and deep misery.

Nah, I'm compensating for my 3" dick.
Obviously.

He doesn't understand that we're perfectly
happy this way, and we honestly do believe that we're smarter/better
than everyone else.

Believe?
We are smarter than him and everybody else.

I am, anyhow.

Say it often enough and you'll start to believe it yourself!

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 17:37:35 GMT, geek_girl
wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote:

geek_girl wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote:

David wrote:

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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What wake up call? I'm eminently happy with my life. Book sales
(BTW, I
don't personal train for money anymore, I train people who are
worth my
time to train and the lesbians make the cut) allow me to **** off all
day long. I don't have to wake up at any set hours or go to a
deadening
job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent
supervisor. I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle




Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not
the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except
the part
where you are a prick




Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.

It's the other stuff you have your head up your ass about.

Lyle



I think he's still going by the old theory that people who are foul
mouthed and belligerent are putting up a facade to conceal their low
self-esteem and deep misery.


Nah, I'm compensating for my 3" dick.

I thought you did something else to compensate for that.


He doesn't understand that we're perfectly happy this way, and we
honestly do believe that we're smarter/better than everyone else.

Believe?

Yeah, cuz I believe stuff that's true.

We are smarter than him and everybody else.

Definitely him.

I am, anyhow.

Me too!

s******

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:54:20 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

David wrote:

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:


"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:



"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:




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job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor. I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle

Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except the

part

where you are a prick

Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.


no no that;s not what makes you a prick - you can be foul mouthed and
belligerent all you like - I got no problem with that. What makes you
loathesome (to me) is this proclivity you seem to have for wanting to
ridicule people that you perceive to be dumber than you are. To try to big
note yourself by putting someone else down. We had a professor like that -
got a kick out of humiliating students (other than the ones who fed his
ego) - he was generally known as a goose (an Aussie term for an asshole) .
I loathe people who try to put others down - who think somehow they are
superior because they know more in whatever narrow focus they happen to
specialize in.


A. You might note that I don't give **** what you or anybody else think
of me. Like me, don't like me, I honestly don't care. If I did, I'd
act a lot differently than I do.

You appear to be going to great lengths to convince yourself!!


B. As well, the original poster was making a post as if it was something
meaningful. People like that, who are unaware of their own
incompetency, should be shot down as far as I'm concerned.

You'll note that I generally try not to harsh people for ignorance (not
knowing becuse I don't know 99.9% of what's oon teh planet either), I
will harsh them for stupidity (and that includes feigning competence
where it doesn't exist, see any post by DRS, Hudson or a number of other
MFW regulars).

I can't remember you "harshing" me for "stupidity" including "feigning
competence"; you normally use the "ignore" tactic to cope with me
because you can't stand getting one up you!! ;o)

The last I heard from you was that you had "killfiled" me, which just
goes to prove my theory about "killfiles", as you responded to me
direct earlier this evening!!

You'll need a better memory than you have got McD if you are going to
tell 'porkies' of that magnitude!! ;o)

[...]

"John HUDSON" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:33:18 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

geek_girl wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote:

David wrote:

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
...


What wake up call? I'm eminently happy with my life. Book sales
(BTW, I
don't personal train for money anymore, I train people who are worth
my
time to train and the lesbians make the cut) allow me to **** off
all
day long. I don't have to wake up at any set hours or go to a
deadening
job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor.
I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle



Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not
the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except
the part
where you are a prick



Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.

It's the other stuff you have your head up your ass about.

Lyle


I think he's still going by the old theory that people who are foul
mouthed and belligerent are putting up a facade to conceal their low
self-esteem and deep misery.

Nah, I'm compensating for my 3" dick.
Obviously.

He doesn't understand that we're perfectly
happy this way, and we honestly do believe that we're smarter/better
than everyone else.

Believe?
We are smarter than him and everybody else.

I am, anyhow.

Say it often enough and you'll start to believe it yourself!

she seems like a genius to me

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:56:19 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

DRS wrote:

Lyle McDonald wrote in message


DRS wrote:

I'm not even close to your total of extraneous material. You are
one of the laziest posters I've ever seen.

Nor have you geneated anything approximating the amount of amazing,
cutting edge information I've generated either.


If and when it can be found amidst the garbage you bury it in.

You can killfile me just as easily as anybody else cn killfile me.
I have no obligation to you or anyone to post in any way that I don't like.

If you don't like it, killfile me and don't read me.

BTW, as someone pointed out to me a while back, there is humorous irony
in the fact that:

a. the people who like what I have to say read me
b. the people who don't like it read me more

What a lot of tosh!! I normally completely ignore any post from you
unless it happens to be a thread in which I happen to be involved.

You are so boring and long-winded, and never miss and opportunity to
try and impress by over-complicating an issue. You go into reams of
copied and pasted text-book jargon, which is normally quite
gratuitous, and means bugger all to anyone else other than yourself.

Your other contributions are normally centred on the variations of
your self-administered sex life, which by any normal standards are
quite sick. I had enough of your perverted rubbish a long time ago, so
the only rare contact I have with you and your contributions, are when
we have the odd confrontation like this.

While you may have a lot of technical knowledge it is all in a very
specialist subject. Most of it is of no interest to me, or many others
who post here on a regular basis, notwithstanding the small number of
people who hang on your every word for reasons best known to them.
They are easily impressed old chap!!

"John HUDSON" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 11:54:20 -0600, Lyle McDonald
wrote:

David wrote:

"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:


"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:



"Lyle McDonald" wrote in message
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David wrote:




[....]



job that makes me miserable or work for some incompetent supervisor.
I
get to read, learn, train, have fun and goof off all day every day.

Much better than working some job you hate until you retire and then
look forward to death.

But nice try.

Lyle

Ahh, what the heck . . . mebbe I got it wrong . . .mebbe you're not
the
asshole I thought you were . . . I take it all back . . . except the

part

where you are a prick

Oh no, I'm a foul mouthed belligerent prick too. Never claimed
differently. ****, I revel in it.


no no that;s not what makes you a prick - you can be foul mouthed and
belligerent all you like - I got no problem with that. What makes you
loathesome (to me) is this proclivity you seem to have for wanting to
ridicule people that you perceive to be dumber than you are. To try to
big
note yourself by putting someone else down. We had a professor like
that -
got a kick out of humiliating students (other than the ones who fed his
ego) - he was generally known as a goose (an Aussie term for an
asshole) .
I loathe people who try to put others down - who think somehow they are
superior because they know more in whatever narrow focus they happen to
specialize in.


A. You might note that I don't give **** what you or anybody else think
of me. Like me, don't like me, I honestly don't care. If I did, I'd
act a lot differently than I do.

You appear to be going to great lengths to convince yourself!!


B. As well, the original poster was making a post as if it was something
meaningful. People like that, who are unaware of their own
incompetency, should be shot down as far as I'm concerned.

You'll note that I generally try not to harsh people for ignorance (not
knowing becuse I don't know 99.9% of what's oon teh planet either), I
will harsh them for stupidity (and that includes feigning competence
where it doesn't exist, see any post by DRS, Hudson or a number of other
MFW regulars).

I can't remember you "harshing" me for "stupidity" including "feigning
competence"; you normally use the "ignore" tactic to cope with me
because you can't stand getting one up you!! ;o)

The last I heard from you was that you had "killfiled" me, which just
goes to prove my theory about "killfiles", as you responded to me
direct earlier this evening!!

You'll need a better memory than you have got McD if you are going to
tell 'porkies' of that magnitude!! ;o)

[...]

OK, John , sorry to say, I have now killfiled you - as you have accused my
new friend Lyle (who is clearly an "us") of telling 'porkies' which we know
Lyle does not do (normally) as he is clearly a pretty decent sort of guy