Ketostix: no more purple

Drop 41 wrote:

Besides - the Atkins book specifically states that the Induction phase can
be safely done for longer than 2 weeks if you need to lose a lot of weight.

Safe isn't the same as best loss. The 4-phase process was designed
to outperform the more obvious staying low. Are you really here to
be "safe", or are you really here to pursue the most effective path
to loss? Are you really here to focus on the obvious, or are you
really here to learn some non-obvious stuff that works even better
than the obvious? The 4-phase process is far from obvious, but it
works extremely well.

And unfortunately the book does not supply a number for what
qualifies as "a lot". As a result everyone lays claim at having a
lot to lose, from the folks already at their ideal weight wanting a
few glamor pounds through folks with 200 to lose. Just claiming
you have a lot to lose doesn't make it so, you need to compare with
a lot of others.

I would like to lose about 30-40 lbs then maybe go to OWL.

Looking around you'll see that the folks with a lot to lose have
at least 3 times that much when they start. Realistically, "a
lot" means somewhere in the range of 100+ to lose.

My loss hasn't been too rapid as is now.

No one ever thinks they are losing rapidly. Relax. You are doing
fine! Move on to OWL and enjoy the extra variety coupled with the
extra loss. Step out in faith! Phase one worked well, so will
phases two and on.

"revek" wrote in message ...

You mention 65% fat, what is your protien percentage? You are aware
that protien converts at up to 58% to carbs, right? Be careful to eat
enough protien for maintaining your current lean muscle mass, but no
more-- or carbs they may become. The prefered order the body uses for
fuel is : alcohol, carbs, protien, then fat. So if you eat too much
protien, your body will prefer to convert it to carbs rather than burn
fat. It would have the same effect of eating too many starch/sugar
carbs-- insulin dump and scrub clean the blood and store all those
calories before you can burn them.

You may wish to cut back on the protien for a bit and add a pat of
butter or seasoned olive oil to your veggies (to make up the calories)
and see if that nudges things along (if you are at all like me and
hate the math).

revek

Thanks for the information Revek. I'd forgotten again that high
protein is bad too. I usually average about 100gms of Fat, 10-15gms of
Carbs, and the rest is protein. Working back from a total of about
1600 Calories a day, that gives me about 400 Calories from Protein or
40 gms of Protein, which comes to about 25% Protein intake.

To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

Does that look about right?

Thanks in advance.

"revek" wrote in message ...

You mention 65% fat, what is your protien percentage? You are aware
that protien converts at up to 58% to carbs, right? Be careful to eat
enough protien for maintaining your current lean muscle mass, but no
more-- or carbs they may become. The prefered order the body uses for
fuel is : alcohol, carbs, protien, then fat. So if you eat too much
protien, your body will prefer to convert it to carbs rather than burn
fat. It would have the same effect of eating too many starch/sugar
carbs-- insulin dump and scrub clean the blood and store all those
calories before you can burn them.

You may wish to cut back on the protien for a bit and add a pat of
butter or seasoned olive oil to your veggies (to make up the calories)
and see if that nudges things along (if you are at all like me and
hate the math).

revek

Thanks for the information Revek. I'd forgotten again that high
protein is bad too. I usually average about 100gms of Fat, 10-15gms of
Carbs, and the rest is protein. Working back from a total of about
1600 Calories a day, that gives me about 400 Calories from Protein or
40 gms of Protein, which comes to about 25% Protein intake.

To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

Does that look about right?

Thanks in advance.

GillBates generously shared with us this little ditty:


To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

If your numbers are correct, that looks fine. Another possibility is
eating once a day/large meals. This can also cause an insulin dump.
Also, and some may dispute this, eating not long before you sleep-- your
metabolism slows down some at that time and it may be enough that you
end up storing most of your calories.

One last thought. It is still quite early at one month. You could be
just a slow loser, or there may be massive tissue changes going on--
have you been measuring yourself as well as weighing?

--
revek
The opinions expressed are mine. Mine alone! Nobody else is
responsible for them or even endorses them--except my cat Dexter, and
he signed the power of attorney only under my threat to cut off his Cat
Chow!--Stan Brown

GillBates generously shared with us this little ditty:


To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

If your numbers are correct, that looks fine. Another possibility is
eating once a day/large meals. This can also cause an insulin dump.
Also, and some may dispute this, eating not long before you sleep-- your
metabolism slows down some at that time and it may be enough that you
end up storing most of your calories.

One last thought. It is still quite early at one month. You could be
just a slow loser, or there may be massive tissue changes going on--
have you been measuring yourself as well as weighing?

--
revek
The opinions expressed are mine. Mine alone! Nobody else is
responsible for them or even endorses them--except my cat Dexter, and
he signed the power of attorney only under my threat to cut off his Cat
Chow!--Stan Brown

Thanks yet again. Yes, I read about the possible -ve effects of having
a single heavy meal or eating too late in the day on forum.lowcarb.org
and elsewhere. I try to even out my calories and eat before 7pm as
much as possible. But thanks for emphasizing that.

As for measurement, I'm going to get myself a tape measure this
weekend, a lot of people have told me over the past week that I seem
to have lost weight - though I don't show a lot of difference on the
scale - I seem to have broader shoulders probably due to the workouts
I've been doing. I'll measure myself on mybodycomp.com or something
and post the results here. My jeans definitely feel loser though - I
guess I just find it hard to convince myself that I could be losing
inches instead of weight.

Really appreciate your feedback and advice, Revek. I'm sorry for the
slow responses on my part - this is because I post through the Google
interface to Usenet (groups.google.com) and it takes 6-8 hours for my
message to show up.

Regards.

"revek" wrote in message ...
GillBates generously shared with us this little ditty:


To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

If your numbers are correct, that looks fine. Another possibility is
eating once a day/large meals. This can also cause an insulin dump.
Also, and some may dispute this, eating not long before you sleep-- your
metabolism slows down some at that time and it may be enough that you
end up storing most of your calories.

One last thought. It is still quite early at one month. You could be
just a slow loser, or there may be massive tissue changes going on--
have you been measuring yourself as well as weighing?

Thanks yet again. Yes, I read about the possible -ve effects of having
a single heavy meal or eating too late in the day on forum.lowcarb.org
and elsewhere. I try to even out my calories and eat before 7pm as
much as possible. But thanks for emphasizing that.

As for measurement, I'm going to get myself a tape measure this
weekend, a lot of people have told me over the past week that I seem
to have lost weight - though I don't show a lot of difference on the
scale - I seem to have broader shoulders probably due to the workouts
I've been doing. I'll measure myself on mybodycomp.com or something
and post the results here. My jeans definitely feel loser though - I
guess I just find it hard to convince myself that I could be losing
inches instead of weight.

Really appreciate your feedback and advice, Revek. I'm sorry for the
slow responses on my part - this is because I post through the Google
interface to Usenet (groups.google.com) and it takes 6-8 hours for my
message to show up.

Regards.

"revek" wrote in message ...
GillBates generously shared with us this little ditty:


To summarize, my breakdown is approx:
65%fat
25%protein
10%carbs
out of a 1500-1600 calorie diet.

If your numbers are correct, that looks fine. Another possibility is
eating once a day/large meals. This can also cause an insulin dump.
Also, and some may dispute this, eating not long before you sleep-- your
metabolism slows down some at that time and it may be enough that you
end up storing most of your calories.

One last thought. It is still quite early at one month. You could be
just a slow loser, or there may be massive tissue changes going on--
have you been measuring yourself as well as weighing?

GillBates generously shared with us this little ditty:
Really appreciate your feedback and advice, Revek. I'm sorry for the
slow responses on my part - this is because I post through the Google
interface to Usenet (groups.google.com) and it takes 6-8 hours for my
message to show up.

No sweat. It's not like I sit at the computer all day just waiting for
posts myself these days.


You can use a regular newsreader (OE, Gravity, Navigator, Forte Agent,
etc) and the free german newsserver (www.individual.net) for faster
response time if you like. Takes a couple days to set up but it's
fairly reliable.

--
revek
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