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Old May 2nd, 2012, 01:31 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bill O'Meally
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On 2012-05-01 17:29:22 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:
Thanks Susan! What I need to do is to limit my portions, mostly. I
just don't feel like cooking & eating eggs at breakfast all the time.
So I have been eating cereal......now tired of that.


If you don't want to give up a bowl of something cold and wet in the
morning, you could try what I do. Original Fiber One has only 11 net
carbs per serving, and is sweetened with aspartame instead of sugar. I
will have maybe a half-serving of that, a few tablespoons of chia seed,
some crushed walnuts or pecans and maybe a handful of berried. Add
almond milk and a splash of heavy cream. Yummy!
--
Bill
"Wise Fool" -- Gandalf, _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not)

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Old May 2nd, 2012, 02:26 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On May 2, 8:31*am, Bill O'Meally wrote:
On 2012-05-01 17:29:22 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:

Thanks Susan! *What I need to do is to limit my portions, mostly. * I
just don't feel like cooking & eating eggs at breakfast all the time.
So I have been eating cereal......now tired of that.


If you don't want to give up a bowl of something cold and wet in the
morning, you could try what I do. Original Fiber One has only 11 net
carbs per serving, and is sweetened with aspartame instead of sugar. I
will have maybe a half-serving of that, a few tablespoons of chia seed,
some crushed walnuts or pecans and maybe a handful of berried. Add
almond milk and a splash of heavy cream. Yummy!
--
Bill



I've been using Honeyville Farms textured vegetable
protein as a cold cereal. With some half and half,
a dash of vanilla, and splenda it tastes real good to
me. Not as good as the Atkins cereals when they
were available, but still very good and LC. Has a slighlty
nutty flavor. Toss in a couple sliced strawberries
and you're good to go.

HF is also a source for polydextrose which I use in some
desserts
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Old May 2nd, 2012, 05:10 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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"Bill O'Meally" wrote in message
news:2012050207312644123-omeallymd@wiserrcom...
On 2012-05-01 17:29:22 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:
Thanks Susan! What I need to do is to limit my portions, mostly. I
just don't feel like cooking & eating eggs at breakfast all the time. So
I have been eating cereal......now tired of that.


If you don't want to give up a bowl of something cold and wet in the
morning, you could try what I do. Original Fiber One has only 11 net carbs
per serving, and is sweetened with aspartame instead of sugar. I will have
maybe a half-serving of that, a few tablespoons of chia seed, some crushed
walnuts or pecans and maybe a handful of berried. Add almond milk and a
splash of heavy cream. Yummy!
--
Bill
"Wise Fool" -- Gandalf, _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not)


I like steel cut oat meal (only draw back is that it take over 20 min. to
cook) I has a lower glycemic effect for me. Aspartame does not aggree with
me so I use stevia or splenda. I use soy milk.

Nana


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Old May 2nd, 2012, 05:37 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Nana.Wilson wrote:

I Googled it & found that the fiber content is high in the smoothies as it
does not separate the pulp from the juice, it is ALL contained in the
juice.


Most juice recipes still start with high carb fruits. You will not get
the benefits of low carbing with that strategy. The difference is small
with or without the fiber. Fruit juice is still high carb.

With shakes/smoothies that really are low carb the berries are used as
flavoring not as a base ingredient. Almost spice levels. At that level
it doesn't matter nearly as much if the fiber remains or not.

I can make peanut butter too with 'nuthing' but peanuts!


If you use unsalted peanuts you'll want to add a bit of salt. If you
use salted peanuts you'll want to look for unsalted ones to mix in to
dilute the salt.

Have you been able to make nut butter or bean paste in your big loud
commercial blender? Nice. Peanut paste is not the only type of bean
paste you can make.

I'm not much for red meat (just a personal preference)


Plenty of feather, fin and shell meats.

I love hummus. What is lower carb that I can dip into it?


Celery sticks. Chicharon aka pork rinds. Because hummus is based on a
legume and a sed it's already fairly high in carb.

I am over weight, diabetic blah, blah. I sure hope this will help me.


You will probably do better focusing on one of the popular low carb
plans than by playing with a blender that makes food that is lower carb
than you have been eating but that is higher carb than would be found on
most low carb plans.

I happen to be an Atkins plan but any of the popular ones work and each
has its fans.
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Old May 2nd, 2012, 05:49 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Nana.Wilson wrote:
"Susan" wrote...

A Vitamix is kind of an odd purchase for a diabetic, Nana, sorry to say!


Even chosing carefully its applications are rather limited.

What I need to do is to limit my portions, mostly.


Once you start low carbing the carb cravings go away. Because low
carbing is medium protein and high fat or vice versa any cravings for
fat go away as well. The result is decreased appetite. That makes
portion control easier. For some it makes portion control possible for
the first time. So I repeat what Susan and I have already posted - You
will be better off going with a low carb plan than playing with this fun
new fancy machine.

I just
don't feel like cooking & eating eggs at breakfast all the time. So I have
been eating cereal......now tired of that. I am going to try these green
drinks I keep hearing about. Green veggies with fruit thrown in to make it
tastier. I plan to add some protein powder. I like the idea of all natural
peanut butter without sugar & salt. Jes trin' ta make it from one day ta
the next......


I have a breakfast suggestion that only applies to afternoon and
evening people that is nonsense for morning people. If you're a morning
person be sure to ignore it -

Go with the eggs anyways. Morning food for us is a matter of habit not
variety. Variety at breakfast is for the morning people. For us
variety is for dinner or perhaps lunch.

What happens is there are old habits that are comfortable so you will
want to modify them as little as possible. This is why people look for
low carb milk (which is a pretty good product when you can find it by
the way) and lower carb cereal (which even at its best isn't low carb
enough for the first 6+ months of many low carb plans).

Instead go with the eggs. There will be a phase when they are boring
because they don't match the old habit. Stay with them anyways. In
time the eggs will form a new morning habit. In time they will become
your new morning comfort food. Eggs are definately better food than
anything based on grain for low carbers.

Patience is the key. You're going to need to low carb until you are
cured of diabetes. Think about how many people are ever cured of
diabetes by any treatment other than reincarnation. Very few are ever
cured in their current lives. Right. It will be a very long time. Mor
ethan long enough for eggs to be your new morning comfort food ritual.
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Old May 2nd, 2012, 06:32 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On May 2, 12:37*pm, Doug Freyburger wrote:
Nana.Wilson wrote:

I Googled it & found that the fiber content is high in the smoothies as it
does not separate the pulp from the juice, *it is ALL contained in the
juice.


Most juice recipes still start with high carb fruits. *You will not get
the benefits of low carbing with that strategy. *The difference is small
with or without the fiber. *Fruit juice is still high carb.

With shakes/smoothies that really are low carb the berries are used as
flavoring not as a base ingredient. *Almost spice levels. *At that level
it doesn't matter nearly as much if the fiber remains or not.


I used to make shakes using silken tofu, LC milk and
DaVinci or similar syrup. I use either the Hood LC milk
or one of the unsweetned almond milk products.
As you point out, you could also use some real LC fruit,
eg blueberries, strawberries, etc.

I agree with you and the others on the problems of
trying to use a juice machine approach. If you put
in typical fruits it's going to have significant carbs.
And if you use vegs that are LC, like celery and
spinach I don't think it's going to taste so great.
Maybe with some careful blending there could be
some middle ground. I would think googling LC
blender shakes or similar might be productive.




I can make peanut butter too with 'nuthing' but peanuts!


If you use unsalted peanuts you'll want to add a bit of salt. *If you
use salted peanuts you'll want to look for unsalted ones to mix in to
dilute the salt.

Have you been able to make nut butter or bean paste in your big loud
commercial blender? *Nice. *Peanut paste is not the only type of bean
paste you can make.

I'm not much for red meat (just a personal preference)


Plenty of feather, fin and shell meats.

I love hummus. *What is lower carb that I can dip into it?


Celery sticks. *Chicharon aka pork rinds. *Because hummus is based on a
legume and a sed it's already fairly high in carb.


Instead of hummus, she should be looking at
baba ganoush. Similar, but since it uses eggplant
it's low carb.





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Old May 2nd, 2012, 10:21 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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TVP makes a good cooked cereal, too. My SO was told by his doctor to eat
oatmeal for his cholesterol since I screamed so loud about her trying to put
him on statins. His cholesterol isn't really very high but he likes to do
what his doctor tells him. He doesn't like it with milk and sugar. When I
mentioned this elsewhere a fellow said he liked oatmeal made with bouillion.
So what I make is half oatmeal, half TVP with Minor's soup base. They make
a bacon base that he likes. No extra liquid like milk required.

I am really conflicted about the TVP though, some say soy is good, others
say it is bad. It's all so complicated.

wrote:
|
|
| I've been using Honeyville Farms textured vegetable
| protein as a cold cereal. With some half and half,
| a dash of vanilla, and splenda it tastes real good to
| me. Not as good as the Atkins cereals when they
| were available, but still very good and LC. Has a slighlty
| nutty flavor. Toss in a couple sliced strawberries
| and you're good to go.
|
| HF is also a source for polydextrose which I use in some
| desserts

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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:50 AM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
Bill O'Meally
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On 2012-05-02 11:10:49 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:

"Bill O'Meally" wrote in message
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On 2012-05-01 17:29:22 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:
Thanks Susan! What I need to do is to limit my portions, mostly. I
just don't feel like cooking & eating eggs at breakfast all the time.
So I have been eating cereal......now tired of that.


If you don't want to give up a bowl of something cold and wet in the
morning, you could try what I do. Original Fiber One has only 11 net
carbs per serving, and is sweetened with aspartame instead of sugar. I
will have maybe a half-serving of that, a few tablespoons of chia seed,
some crushed walnuts or pecans and maybe a handful of berried. Add
almond milk and a splash of heavy cream. Yummy!
--
Bill
"Wise Fool" -- Gandalf, _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not)


I like steel cut oat meal (only draw back is that it take over 20 min.
to cook) I has a lower glycemic effect for me. Aspartame does not
aggree with me so I use stevia or splenda. I use soy milk.


I'm not a fan of aspartame either. I wish the folks at General Mills
would switch to Splenda, but you take what you can get. Fiber One is
the best kept secret as far as low-carb, mass-produced cereals are
concerned. Steel cut oats are still pretty high carb. Soy milk is fine
(as far as carb counting is concerned), though some folks like to avoid
soy products.
--
Bill
"Wise Fool" -- Gandalf, _The Two Towers_
(The Wise will remove 'se' to reach me. The Foolish will not)

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Old May 3rd, 2012, 12:35 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 18:50:56 -0500, Bill O'Meally
wrote:
On 2012-05-02 11:10:49 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:


I like steel cut oat meal (only draw back is that it take over 20 min.
to cook) I has a lower glycemic effect for me. Aspartame does not
aggree with me so I use stevia or splenda. I use soy milk.


I'm not a fan of aspartame either. I wish the folks at General Mills
would switch to Splenda, but you take what you can get. Fiber One is
the best kept secret as far as low-carb, mass-produced cereals are
concerned.


ASPARTAME IS EVIL. Just do a search.

I haven't touched the stuff in years.


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Old May 3rd, 2012, 02:19 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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On May 3, 7:35*am, Patricia Martin Steward
wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 18:50:56 -0500, Bill O'Meally

wrote:
On 2012-05-02 11:10:49 -0500, Nana.Wilson said:


I like steel cut oat meal (only draw back is that it take over 20 min.
to cook) *I has a lower glycemic effect for me. *Aspartame does not
aggree with me so I use stevia or splenda. *I use soy milk.


I'm not a fan of aspartame either. I wish the folks at General Mills
would switch to Splenda, but you take what you can get. Fiber One is
the best kept secret as far as low-carb, mass-produced cereals are
concerned.


ASPARTAME IS EVIL. *Just do a search.

I haven't touched the stuff in years.


I could just as easily do a "search" that shows
that LC is evil.
 




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