I purchased FitDay

determined wrote:
"Lisa" wrote in message ...
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"em" wrote in message
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"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 1:52 pm, Lisa wrote:
Today was a day of abstinence for me, my first. I felt like I was
starving to death, and I still ended up taking in over 3,000 calories.
LOL!

What sort of abstinence is it, when you're taking in something like
twice the calories that you need?
Well, in the case of someone who is significantly overweight, 3000-6000
calories is not all that abnormal.

Thank you. At least there's one decently intelligent person in this
group.

There are many intelligent people on this ng. But if you are not thick
skinned, chances are you will get offended. There are the retards, the
spammers, the trolls. Then there are the regulars, who don't sugar coat
anything. You aren't going to get warm fuzzy hugs, but you will get useful
information, practical advice, and a swift kick in the ass if you need it.


All true as far as I've observed. I'm no Usenet newbie, if that's what
you're thinking, but thanks for the heads up all the same. I just
didn't feel like taking any guff off anyone that particular day.

On Jun 20, 4:52 pm, Lisa wrote:
I was very surprised and pleased about how easy it is to use. I hate
counting calories, have put it off for a long time, and this software
practically does it for me so... a good thing.

(no, I'm not pushing FitDay, jus' sayin')

Today was a day of abstinence for me, my first. I felt like I was
starving to death, and I still ended up taking in over 3,000 calories.

It sounds like you got your money's worth already with that
information.

Instead of falsely believing that you have a metablolic disorder as
many people do, you now know you are simply eating too much.

Instead of stressing about a phantom disorder you can't control you
have been given information that you can do something about.

I've read sundry articles over the years that most people, even
informed ones, will underestimate how much they eat. I've been
calorie counting for a while. Sometimes I will just write down my
food and portions and not fill in the calories for a few days. I am
always amazed how much higher my intake is over my mental estimate.

Calorie counting has to be the most underrated fitness activity.

For ~10 min a day you lose pounds a month just by accurately tracking
your intake and levelling off the excess.

I still get impressed how it isn't what most people consider to be a
reasonable meal that gets them, that it is the harmless little snacks,
nibbling from the refrigerator, tasting from a pot, and "occasional"
binges that pack the weight on.

I think many people would lose most of their excess weight if they
just stopped those behaviors.

Steve wrote:
It sounds like you got your money's worth already with that
information.

Instead of falsely believing that you have a metablolic disorder as
many people do, you now know you are simply eating too much.

Instead of stressing about a phantom disorder you can't control you
have been given information that you can do something about.

I've read sundry articles over the years that most people, even
informed ones, will underestimate how much they eat. I've been
calorie counting for a while. Sometimes I will just write down my
food and portions and not fill in the calories for a few days. I am
always amazed how much higher my intake is over my mental estimate.

Calorie counting has to be the most underrated fitness activity.

For ~10 min a day you lose pounds a month just by accurately tracking
your intake and levelling off the excess.

I still get impressed how it isn't what most people consider to be a
reasonable meal that gets them, that it is the harmless little snacks,
nibbling from the refrigerator, tasting from a pot, and "occasional"
binges that pack the weight on.

I think many people would lose most of their excess weight if they
just stopped those behaviors.


I've narrowed it down even further (for myself) since writing that post.

Oh how I'd love to tell all overweight people I've found the 'fountain
of weight loss', blanket solution that'd help us all but I can't. Can
only say I'm busy exploring/paying attention to my own personal journey
and finding the traps. Anyway...

I'm seriously beginning to believe from the time I was a child I've
fallen prey to over-sized portions and pushed consumerism when it came
to food. (and all else for that matter) This is one instance bigger
definitely isn't better. I'm going to have to *completely* re-learn.

Now, I agree with the Historian when he posted (some time back) that
obesity didn't equal victimhood and 'fat' didn't just happen. The thing
is, though, that you learn the wrong thing to begin with, then when you
finally wake up and realize it's wrong and begin looking for solutions,
the solutions presented to you are false at worse or misleading at best.
Leading me to believe making healthy lifestyle changes isn't a task
for the weak-hearted or those lacking in a real desire to analyze, work
(work, work) and change.

The people doing it or maintaining are real modern day heroes a cut
above the norm.

On Jun 27, 2:29 am, Lisa wrote:
em wrote:

"Kaz Kylheku" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 1:52 pm, Lisa wrote:
Today was a day of abstinence for me, my first. I felt like I was
starving to death, and I still ended up taking in over 3,000 calories.

LOL!

What sort of abstinence is it, when you're taking in something like
twice the calories that you need?

Maybe she was abstaining from sex?

The lack of imagination in these answers depresses me.

And that, of course, calls for an immediate donut!

On Jun 27, 2:29 am, Lisa wrote:
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On Jun 20, 1:52 pm, Lisa wrote:
Today was a day of abstinence for me, my first. I felt like I was
starving to death, and I still ended up taking in over 3,000 calories.

LOL!

How rude.

Laughing isn't rude. It's just a basic response to something funny. If
you don't want that response, then don't behave in ways that evoke it.
In other words, don't be laughable and people won't laugh.

I'll remember your name ...

Ooh, a stalker. Do you want my phone number and address too?

Or maybe I'll treat you with the respect befitting someone who
knows how to respond to strangers in public.

Or, rather, you will /think/ you're doing that, while in fact rudely
patronizing me with a lecture on manners.

What sort of abstinence is it, when you're taking in something like
twice the calories that you need?

First, it's abstinence from binge-eating. The word 'abstain' doesn't
pertain solely to caloric intake.

Other than in jest, you cannot indulge in excess and call it
abstinence from hyper-excess.

It's comical to abuse the word that way.

Second, how do you know how many calories I need unless I provide you
with my height, weight, body type, or BMI, etc.? You don't.

No woman needs 3000 calories per day unless she's training for Beijing
2008, or is something like seven feet tall and highly muscular.

On Jun 27, 10:19 am, Lisa wrote:
em wrote:

"Lisa" wrote in ...
em wrote:
Maybe she was abstaining from sex?

The lack of imagination in these answers depresses me.

Well, then, lets see some of your clever wit.

I don't perform without a contract.

A contract usually purchases the actual application of one's intellect
and skill. Wit is merely the demonstration which may help win such a
contract. Those who /can/ demonstrate, usually do so, liberally.

Sorry you're having a bad
day,

What makes you think I'm having a bad day?

You do know that ``sorry you're having a bad day'' really means ``I
suspect you might have a bad personality, but I'm willing to believe
it's just a bad day''?

I had a rather good day, actually.

That is to say, you're confirming that it's the personality.