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"Ignoramus14701" wrote in message
... ``As high-protein/fat diets are thought to have adverse effects on kidneys and liver, kidney and liver fun ctions were regularly monitored. They were found to be unaffected by this diet.'' So, in that study, children had no impairment in liver or kidney. That was a 12 weeks study. I doubt *any* diet would manage to damage the liver or kidney in such a small amount of time, no matter how unbalanced. Both these organs are extremelly sturdy, it takes repeated assaults on them to finally cause them to malfunction. If one really wanted to see the health impacts of these diets, one would have to study them over several years, on a large population. That would be an interresting study in itself. I'm not convinced extreme low-fat is any healthier than extreme low-carb btw. |
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Only calories matter?
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:44:19 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote:
From the study that I mentioned: ``As high-protein/fat diets are thought to have adverse effects on kidneys and liver, kidney and liver fun ctions were regularly monitored. They were found to be unaffected by this diet.'' As I said: long term effects. Meaning 10 to 20 years from now, and later, with the kids being on a sustained low-carb/high-protein regimen. Most of the bad effects of high fat don't become evident until much later in life, when your body is less 'adjustable'. Kid's bodies are often much more adept at adjusting with little or no impact (e.g. broken bones heal twice as fast in infants compared to adults, IYKWIM). Unfortunately, the low-carb diet hasn't been around long enough to really understand its long term effects. In the long run we still have to see whether it is indeed more efficient, and at what costs. And by that I also mean at least 10 to 20 years from now. Of course, if the alternative is being severly obese, anything is better than that... -- -- Boemsi 207 - 197 - 180 |
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On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:44:19 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote:
From the study that I mentioned: ``As high-protein/fat diets are thought to have adverse effects on kidneys and liver, kidney and liver fun ctions were regularly monitored. They were found to be unaffected by this diet.'' As I said: long term effects. Meaning 10 to 20 years from now, and later, with the kids being on a sustained low-carb/high-protein regimen. Most of the bad effects of high fat don't become evident until much later in life, when your body is less 'adjustable'. Kid's bodies are often much more adept at adjusting with little or no impact (e.g. broken bones heal twice as fast in infants compared to adults, IYKWIM). Unfortunately, the low-carb diet hasn't been around long enough to really understand its long term effects. In the long run we still have to see whether it is indeed more efficient, and at what costs. And by that I also mean at least 10 to 20 years from now. Of course, if the alternative is being severly obese, anything is better than that... -- -- Boemsi 207 - 197 - 180 |
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Only calories matter?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:26:28 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote:
Again, most low carbers do not eat much more protein than regular people do. Now you got me confused: if they don't eat more protein, and less carbs than regular people, where do they get their calories from? Regular to me means a 2200 calory diet.. -- -- Boemsi 207 - 196 - 180 |
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On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:26:28 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote:
Again, most low carbers do not eat much more protein than regular people do. Now you got me confused: if they don't eat more protein, and less carbs than regular people, where do they get their calories from? Regular to me means a 2200 calory diet.. -- -- Boemsi 207 - 196 - 180 |
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"Ignoramus23157" wrote in message ... In article , Boemsi wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:26:28 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote: Again, most low carbers do not eat much more protein than regular people do. Now you got me confused: if they don't eat more protein, and less carbs than regular people, where do they get their calories from? Regular to me means a 2200 calory diet.. They get more calories from fat, typically. i I don't know what typical low carbers do but I get an increased number of calories from protien. I have a protien shake daily with 25 grams of protien made with ff yogurt and occasionally some canteloupe or peanut butter. I center my diet around lean protien and low glycemic veggies. Although I am not disciplined enough to count anything including grams of carbs, I do sometimes enter my food into fitday. It usually shows that less than 20 percent of calories come from carbs, and 50 percent come from protien with the remaining coming from fat and alcohol (on the days I drink wine). j |
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"Ignoramus23157" wrote in message ... In article , Boemsi wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:26:28 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote: Again, most low carbers do not eat much more protein than regular people do. Now you got me confused: if they don't eat more protein, and less carbs than regular people, where do they get their calories from? Regular to me means a 2200 calory diet.. They get more calories from fat, typically. i I don't know what typical low carbers do but I get an increased number of calories from protien. I have a protien shake daily with 25 grams of protien made with ff yogurt and occasionally some canteloupe or peanut butter. I center my diet around lean protien and low glycemic veggies. Although I am not disciplined enough to count anything including grams of carbs, I do sometimes enter my food into fitday. It usually shows that less than 20 percent of calories come from carbs, and 50 percent come from protien with the remaining coming from fat and alcohol (on the days I drink wine). j |
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let's see
breakfast soy protien 25 gms yogurt 10 pb 8 snack egg 12 (?) Lunch Chicken wrap 38 Dinner Cheeseburger 30 That doesn't include any nuts or cheese I snack on during the day and comes to approx 500 calories from protien which is slightly less than half of what I take in (around 1100 - 1200) although I am deliberately increasing the amount of food I am taking in. When I was actively losing weight, the SBD sort of killed my appetite so there were probably several days each week that I didn't eat nearly as much as I should have. j "Ignoramus17574" wrote in message ... In article HE0Uc.22086$Yf6.9428@lakeread03, julianne wrote: "Ignoramus23157" wrote in message ... In article , Boemsi wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:26:28 +0000, Ignoramus14701 wrote: Again, most low carbers do not eat much more protein than regular people do. Now you got me confused: if they don't eat more protein, and less carbs than regular people, where do they get their calories from? Regular to me means a 2200 calory diet.. They get more calories from fat, typically. i I don't know what typical low carbers do but I get an increased number of calories from protien. I have a protien shake daily with 25 grams of protien made with ff yogurt and occasionally some canteloupe or peanut butter. I center my diet around lean protien and low glycemic veggies. Although I am not disciplined enough to count anything including grams of carbs, I do sometimes enter my food into fitday. It usually shows that less than 20 percent of calories come from carbs, and 50 percent come from protien with the remaining coming from fat and alcohol (on the days I drink wine). So, say, you eat 1500 calories per day (an assumption), that means that you get 750 calories from protein, that means that you are eating an equivalent of 1.6 lbs of lean turkey breast! That's a lot of protein you have to eat... Very impressive. i |
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