60 Minutes Story on Gastric Bypass and elimination on Type 2 Diabetes

There was an interesting story on 60 Minutes last night about gastric
bypass surgery. Doctors noticed that patients that underwent the
procedure that had type 2 diabetes no longer had any symptoms of
diabetes following surgery. Most remarkable was that the effect
occured withing a few days, so it was not linked to weight loss. They
had 8 people on the show, all of whom were type 2 and all said they
were now normal, no longer taking medication, etc.

Researchers looked into how this occurs and have concluded that the
effect seems to be caused by bypassing the duodenum, ie a short part
of the small intestine where it connects to the stomach, where some
hormone is produced by food passing through.

Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. It's certainly very
interesting. Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. It's certainly very
interesting. Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

Thank you for posting this. Those doctors will be very busy if the
estimates of up to 25 percent and more of the population being diabetics
in the future comes true. It is just so typical. Of course, the efforts
go into securing more money for the medical industry rather than getting
people to do lifestyle changes so that they won't get diabetes in the
first place. It is just the way that it seems from this piece of news.

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On Apr 21, 4:37*pm, Hakan wrote:
Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. * It's certainly very
interesting. * Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

*Thank you for posting this. Those doctors will be very busy if the
estimates of up to 25 percent and more of the population being diabetics
in the future comes true. It is just so typical. Of course, the efforts
go into securing more money for the medical industry rather than getting
people to do lifestyle changes so that they won't get diabetes in the
first place. It is just the way that it seems from this piece of news.



It's not that efforts haven't been made to get people to make
lifestyle changes so they won't get diabetes in the first place.
It's just that those efforts haven't worked. Plus, it's believed
genetics plays a key role as well.

I also don't think it's fair to look at this as a way to get more
money for the medical industry. If anything, if it pans out, it will
have exactly the opposite effect. A $25K operation could cure a
lifelong disease that brings with it complications that cost many
times that.

It also could lead to non-surgery solutions as more is underestood
about exactly how bypassing the duodenum results in this effect. And
another curious thing. Most of the gastric bypass patients report
that their cravings for food suddenly disappear. It would be easy to
dismiss this as the result of their stomachs being much smaller. But
does that explain the typical case, where a lady who previously had
cravings for sweets and couldn't pass a candy machine now has no
interest in candy at all? Or is something more going on here, also
possibly related to things about the duodenum that we don't understand?

wrote:


It's not that efforts haven't been made to get people to make
lifestyle changes so they won't get diabetes in the first place.
It's just that those efforts haven't worked. Plus, it's believed
genetics plays a key role as well.

Perhaps they didn't try enough measures. On the other hand, all those
medical approaches has not helped much either, have they? America spends
far more on health care than other countries but still find themselves
with higher rates of for example diabetes than most other Western
countries.

While people certainly have different risk profiles, my point is that
we have a tendency to blame genetics and look for medical solutions as a
part of our technocratic business-oriented way of thinking. Diabetes is
not an unavoidable plague caused by our faulty gene disposition. In many
cases, it is brought on by lack of exercise and the wrong diet choices.

Modern day diseases like cancer, heart disease and diabetes were and
are somewhere between unknown to extremely rare among native populations
living a traditional hunter - gatherer lifestyle. If you want less
diabetes, then get people off their asses and make them eat less sugar.
I'm not principally against this surgery stuff, but it sort of misses
the target.

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"Hakan" wrote in message
Modern day diseases like cancer, heart disease and diabetes were and are
somewhere between unknown to extremely rare among native populations
living a traditional hunter - gatherer lifestyle. If you want less
diabetes, then get people off their asses and make them eat less sugar.
I'm not principally against this surgery stuff, but it sort of misses the
target.

Yea, good luck with that.

Roger Zoul wrote:


"Hakan" wrote in message
Modern day diseases like cancer, heart disease and diabetes were and are
somewhere between unknown to extremely rare among native populations
living a traditional hunter - gatherer lifestyle. If you want less
diabetes, then get people off their asses and make them eat less sugar.
I'm not principally against this surgery stuff, but it sort of misses the
target.

Yea, good luck with that.

Isn't it what this group really is about? I mean, get off your ass and
eat less sugar summarises Dr. Atkins' weight-loss theories pretty darn
well. Quite a few in here did well on that. You just want to be a
pessimist, there are plenty of groups and forums for discussions about
surgery. Low carbers should be believers.



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On Apr 21, 1:01*pm, "
wrote:
There was an interesting story on 60 Minutes last night about gastric
bypass surgery. * Doctors noticed that patients that underwent the
procedure that had type 2 diabetes no longer had any symptoms of
diabetes following surgery. * *Most remarkable was that the effect
occured withing a few days, so it was not linked to weight loss. *They
had 8 people on the show, all of whom were type 2 and all said they
were now normal, no longer taking medication, etc.

Researchers looked into how this occurs and have concluded that the
effect seems to be caused by bypassing the duodenum, ie a short part
of the small intestine where it connects to the stomach, where some
hormone is produced by food passing through.

Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. * It's certainly very
interesting. * Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

My blood work 3 months post WLS showed diabetes as GONE! My A1c came
back 5.1 and 4.8. My insulin levels are normal as are my periods
( which I hardly ever had). My gastric bypass surgeon had told me if a
person did this drastic surgical measure and they didnt have at least
100 excess pounds it would kill them. Guess that stands to reason why
the FDA prohibits this procedure from being done on average weight
diabetics.

My hope is that someday soon they will have a breakthrough and a
cure. I have a close friend who is slowly succumbing to the ravages of
this horrible disease. She has chronic bowel trouble, neuropathy in
her extremities, her eyes are failing. Her heart has even been damaged
by neuropathy and she suffers incredible vertigo when standing up to
walk. She has almost lost her foot from slow healing infections. She
weighs less than 100lbs now. Her face is wrinkled and her hair looks
like straw from being malnourished as everything she eats rockets
through her without being absorbed.

I feel so fortunate to finally be healthy
Still doing good at 159.5 this am 3 years and almost 3 months since
WLS
Laureen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22396623@N08

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT), Laureen
wrote:

On Apr 21, 1:01*pm, "
wrote:
There was an interesting story on 60 Minutes last night about gastric
bypass surgery. * Doctors noticed that patients that underwent the
procedure that had type 2 diabetes no longer had any symptoms of
diabetes following surgery. * *Most remarkable was that the effect
occured withing a few days, so it was not linked to weight loss. *They
had 8 people on the show, all of whom were type 2 and all said they
were now normal, no longer taking medication, etc.

Researchers looked into how this occurs and have concluded that the
effect seems to be caused by bypassing the duodenum, ie a short part
of the small intestine where it connects to the stomach, where some
hormone is produced by food passing through.

Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. * It's certainly very
interesting. * Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

My blood work 3 months post WLS showed diabetes as GONE! My A1c came
back 5.1 and 4.8. My insulin levels are normal as are my periods
( which I hardly ever had). My gastric bypass surgeon had told me if a
person did this drastic surgical measure and they didnt have at least
100 excess pounds it would kill them. Guess that stands to reason why
the FDA prohibits this procedure from being done on average weight
diabetics.

My hope is that someday soon they will have a breakthrough and a
cure. I have a close friend who is slowly succumbing to the ravages of
this horrible disease. She has chronic bowel trouble, neuropathy in
her extremities, her eyes are failing. Her heart has even been damaged
by neuropathy and she suffers incredible vertigo when standing up to
walk. She has almost lost her foot from slow healing infections. She
weighs less than 100lbs now. Her face is wrinkled and her hair looks
like straw from being malnourished as everything she eats rockets
through her without being absorbed.

I feel so fortunate to finally be healthy
Still doing good at 159.5 this am 3 years and almost 3 months since
WLS
Laureen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22396623@N08


Hi Laureen, nice to see your post. I still think about you, Larry and
Alyvia and the great time we had when we went to the PNW to visit you.
Glad that you're still doing so well.

I've been back in "the groove" myself and am down to 216 pounds with a
goal of 180, so I'm getting there! (I had no choice after having
emergency angioplasty and 3 coronary artery stent insertions a few
months ago). I hope to reach my goal this October; when it happens
I'll post new pictures. In the meanwhile I'm feeling great.

I've been mostly lurking with an occasional post here in ASDLC.

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Peter
270/216/180

On Apr 26, 2:36*pm, Marengo wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT), Laureen





wrote:
On Apr 21, 1:01*pm, "
wrote:
There was an interesting story on 60 Minutes last night about gastric
bypass surgery. * Doctors noticed that patients that underwent the
procedure that had type 2 diabetes no longer had any symptoms of
diabetes following surgery. * *Most remarkable was that the effect
occured withing a few days, so it was not linked to weight loss. *They
had 8 people on the show, all of whom were type 2 and all said they
were now normal, no longer taking medication, etc.

Researchers looked into how this occurs and have concluded that the
effect seems to be caused by bypassing the duodenum, ie a short part
of the small intestine where it connects to the stomach, where some
hormone is produced by food passing through.

Some limited studies are underway abroad now to try the procedure on
people not overweight, but with type 2. * It's certainly very
interesting. * Doctors on the show were even using the term "cure".

My blood work 3 months post WLS showed diabetes as GONE! My A1c came
back 5.1 and 4.8. My insulin levels are normal as are my periods
( which I hardly ever had). My gastric bypass surgeon had told me if a
person did this drastic surgical measure and they didnt have at least
100 excess pounds it would kill them. Guess that stands to reason why
the FDA prohibits this procedure from being done on average weight
diabetics.

My hope is that someday soon they will have a breakthrough and a
cure. I have a close friend who is slowly succumbing to the ravages of
this horrible disease. She has chronic bowel trouble, neuropathy in
her extremities, her eyes are failing. Her heart has even been damaged
by neuropathy and she suffers incredible vertigo when standing up to
walk. She has almost lost her foot from slow healing infections. She
weighs less than 100lbs now. Her face is wrinkled and her hair looks
like straw from being malnourished as everything she eats rockets
through her without being absorbed.

I feel so fortunate to finally be healthy
Still doing good at 159.5 this am 3 years and almost 3 months since
WLS
Laureen

http://www.flickr.com/photos/22396623@N08

Hi Laureen, nice to see your post. *I still think about you, Larry and
Alyvia and the great time we had when we went to the PNW to visit you.
Glad that you're still doing so well. *

I've been back in "the groove" myself and am down to 216 pounds with a
goal of 180, so I'm getting there! (I had no choice after having
emergency angioplasty and 3 coronary artery stent insertions a few
months ago). * I hope to reach my goal this October; when it happens
I'll post new pictures. *In the meanwhile I'm feeling great.

* I've been mostly lurking with an occasional post here in ASDLC.

---
Peter
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Hi Peter,
We have lost touch haven't we? Life has been busy and tragic the last
8 months. My tool was put to the test. My father fell ill last June
and I insisted he retire and move here. I offered my home to him,
moved all his belongings here, put them in storage, and nursed him
back to health for the idea of when he felt better he would get his
own place. He got his own place in November.It was nice to see him
gear up and ride his Harley and not have a care in the world for a
brief time. He died suddenly last month. I am utterly and truly
devastated. I cant believe this has happened. I have been on Ativan
and Ambien. I have lost one of my best friends. My Dad raised me with
the help of both of my grandmothers most of my life! He was only 66!
He had lovely long white hair. After he passed I clipped a good amount
and braided it. I HAD to sleep with it wound around my fingers for a
while SIGH!
I wanna cry again
Laureen

Laureen wrote:
On Apr 26, 2:36 pm, Marengo wrote:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:28:17 -0700 (PDT), Laureen
He died suddenly last month. I am utterly and truly
devastated. I cant believe this has happened. I have been on Ativan
and Ambien. I have lost one of my best friends. My Dad raised me with
the help of both of my grandmothers most of my life! He was only 66!
He had lovely long white hair. After he passed I clipped a good amount
and braided it. I HAD to sleep with it wound around my fingers for a
while SIGH!
I wanna cry again
Laureen

So sorry to hear about your lost. Hope you can take some
comfort in being able to spend more time with him during his
last months.


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