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Old November 28th, 2007, 10:27 PM posted to alt.support.diet.low-carb
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Yes I believe so here is a youtube of the interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoQGRJqGQTs
"BlueBrooke" .@. wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:08:39 -0600, "PB" wrote:

Dr Oz is definitely a low fat guy. There was a CNN interview with Gary
Taubes and a few others including Dr. Oz he was quite adamant that he
thought that Taubes was full of crap with his new book. Good Calories Bad
Calories.


I didn't see the interview -- was Oz the one who was so adamant that
Gary Taubes couldn't get a word in edge-wise?



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Old November 28th, 2007, 10:47 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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Jo Anne wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:05:51 -0800 (PST), Zed wrote:
Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


...

I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.


Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.


Oops, sorry Jack. I don't carry that "if man made it, don't eat it"
philosophy to the nth degree, at least not yet anyway. I tend to apply
it more to processed junk foods.
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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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"Jo Anne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:05:51 -0800 (PST), Zed wrote:

Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".

...

I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.


Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.


Not true.


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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:07 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated
fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use
canola oil?

Well, it's cheap.
  #15  
Old November 28th, 2007, 11:37 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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On Nov 28, 1:59 pm, Jo Anne wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:05:51 -0800 (PST), Zed wrote:
Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


...

I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.


Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.


That's not exactly true. It's the product of selective breeding, not
genetic engineering.

The biggest problem is that the majority of the canola oil
commercially available to consumers is garbage.

Real alpha-linolenic acid has to be refrigerated and consumed quickly
because it oxidizes. (And it cannot be used for cooking).

Whereas the typical store-bought canola oil can be kept on the shelf
for months. That's wrong, and it shows that the alpha-linolenic acid
in the original oil has been destroyed by processing.

In other words, this type of canola product has zero biologically
useful omega-3.

You want fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil. And of course, you
want to avoid using it for cooking; heat destroys the omega-3 fatty
acid.

Mehmet Oz should know all this.
  #16  
Old November 28th, 2007, 11:40 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet, alt.christnet.christianlife
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On Nov 28, 11:03 am, wrote:
On Nov 28, 10:23 am, Zed wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Wiser to make LORD Jesus Christ your hero:


Jesus is my Master and Savior. Dr. Oz is my hero only rhetorically
speaking, of course.


Just curious, but "what would Jesus eat?" now, and "what did he
eat?" then.


Jesus ate a lot of fish. Bread too, but quality stuff. And a little
wine here and there.

We never see a fat Jesus, so perhaps he had some secret.


Jesus was totally ripped with six pack abs. Look at all the depictions
in Western art---gothic, Renaissance, you name it.

Then again, I'm guessing there was lots of walking back
then.


Ultramarathoning from one end of Galilee to the other.

Bad for the muscle mass, though.

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Old November 28th, 2007, 11:50 PM posted to sci.med.cardiology,alt.support.diabetes,alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils

THAT is why we use it


wrote in message
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Canola oil is considered "healthy" because it is low in saturated
fats. Since we now know that saturated fat ISN'T the problem, why use
canola oil?

Well, it's cheap.



  #18  
Old November 29th, 2007, 12:10 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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On Nov 28, 3:50 pm, "Tiger Lily" wrote:
Canola oil is a GOOD source for Omega 3 oils


Yes, the plant seeds actually are, and this is preserved in fresh,
cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil.

Alpha-linolenic acid is very sensitive. It won't survive a process
involving chemical extraction, heating, bleaching, deodorizing, etc.

Under these processes, some of it turns into trans fat!

This is what Mary Enig writes about canola oil in an article titled
the ``The Great Can-Ola Scam, Part 2'':

``[...] because canola oil is high in omega-3 fatty acids, which
easily become rancid and foul-smelling when subjected to oxygen and
high temperatures, it must be deodorized. The standard deodorization
process removes a large portion of the omega-3 fatty acids by turning
them into trans fatty acids. Although the Canadian government lists
the trans content of canola at a minimal 0.2 percent, research at the
University of Florida at Gainesville, found trans levels as high as
4.6 percent in commercial liquid oil.24 The consumer has no clue about
the presence of trans fatty acids in canola oil because they are not
listed on the label.''

The cited reference #24 is this:

S O'Keefe and others. Levels of Trans Geometrical Isomers of Essential
Fatty Acids in Some Unhydrogenated US Vegetable Oils. Journal of Food
Lipids 1994;1:165-176.

Yes, that jug of tasteless, clear, cheap canola oil that you can keep
unrefrigerated on the shelf for years and use for deep frying has
little omega 3, and as much as 4% trans fat.
  #19  
Old November 29th, 2007, 12:11 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
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Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On Nov 28, 1:59 pm, Jo Anne wrote:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:05:51 -0800 (PST), Zed wrote:
Anyways, what I've learned in terms of food, is pretty much what Jack
LaLanne has always said: "if man made it, don't eat it".


...


I've also leaned to use canola oil, which in also high in omega 3.


Canola oil is a genetically engineered man-made product.


That's not exactly true. It's the product of selective breeding, not
genetic engineering.

The biggest problem is that the majority of the canola oil
commercially available to consumers is garbage.

Real alpha-linolenic acid has to be refrigerated and consumed quickly
because it oxidizes. (And it cannot be used for cooking).

Whereas the typical store-bought canola oil can be kept on the shelf
for months. That's wrong, and it shows that the alpha-linolenic acid
in the original oil has been destroyed by processing.

In other words, this type of canola product has zero biologically
useful omega-3.

You want fresh, cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil. And of course, you
want to avoid using it for cooking; heat destroys the omega-3 fatty
acid.

Mehmet Oz should know all this.


Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not
heating it.

  #20  
Old November 29th, 2007, 01:53 AM posted to sci.med.cardiology, alt.support.diabetes, alt.support.diet.low-carb,alt.support.diet
Kaz Kylheku
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On Nov 28, 4:11 pm, Zed wrote:
Mehmet Oz should know all this.


Actually he was very specific about keeping it refrigerated and not
heating it.


That doesn't make sense with the widely available refined canola oil,
which was heated during processing, and isn't kept refrigerated in the
supermarket. You're locking the barn door after the horse has fled.
The horse, of course, being a metaphor for all traces of nutrition.

Does Oz make all of that clear?

I wouldn't bother with the cold-pressed, unrefined canola oil simply
because, well, it has competition. If I could find it, why would I
spend money on that instead of flax oil? Price? I don't consume enough
of this type of stuff to worry about cost. The daily tablespoon is
pennies.
 




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