Can a low-carb diet fail if you take in too many calories?

You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself) but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself) but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

That's why you're fat and I'm not.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"PJx" wrote in message
...
You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have
time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost
a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

That's why you're fat and I'm not.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"PJx" wrote in message
...
You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have
time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost
a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

No wonder you're fat.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
Beggone, foul troll. *plonk*


"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
...
No wonder you're fat.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this
guy's
head. -- MFW


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I
lost
a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that
you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

No wonder you're fat.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this guy's
head. -- MFW


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
Beggone, foul troll. *plonk*


"JC Der Koenig" wrote in message
...
No wonder you're fat.

--
If the price of stupid ever goes up, I claim drilling rights to this
guy's
head. -- MFW


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I
lost
a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that
you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.

300 calories per day is not a great deal of fat. Three ounces of
heavy cream or cheese or 3 tablespoons of butter. That's a far cry
from eating 5000 (as claimed) and not gaining or 1000 extra calories
of fat and still being able to lose.

PJx wrote:
You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself) but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.






--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

300 calories per day is not a great deal of fat. Three ounces of
heavy cream or cheese or 3 tablespoons of butter. That's a far cry
from eating 5000 (as claimed) and not gaining or 1000 extra calories
of fat and still being able to lose.

PJx wrote:
You are correct and the trolls are wrong.

I found this on cbs news:
"The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of
Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the
American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people
eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost
just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat
diet.

Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories.
That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason,
it did not"

Go figure.

Pj


On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 08:59:04 -0500, "Ernie Sty"
wrote:

Thanks to everyone who responded (except for the troll.) I don't have time
now to respond to everyone, but there was a lot of good info in your
responses.


"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself) but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.






--
jamie )

"There's a seeker born every minute."

"billydee" wrote in message
om...
"jk" wrote in message
.net...
"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I
lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that
you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.



This is an interesting issue. First of all if your fear is eating too
much
fat, that's not the problem. You can eat 5000 calories of fat a day, and
I
guarantee you it will run right through your body and you'll lose
weight.
The problem is if you eat lots of other things with your fat. For me I
can
eat a 3 lb fatty steak and still not gain an ounce. Once I add veggies
and
about 40-50 carbs a day, then there's a big difference. I never found a
problem though, because doing LC has slowly reduced my desire for the
huge
amounts of food I used to eat. When I sit down to eat I don't think of
portion control at all anymore. When you get to the maintenance stage of
LC,
you have other sets of issues to deal with, so I wouldn't worry about it
now. 6 years and 50 lbs Atkins guy

bull****. if you eat 5000 calories of fat you will get fat.


Oh really? Why not give it a try. Start today by eating ONLY 5000
calories of butter, or lard, or heavy cream, and see if you gain or lose
weight. Please report back, we're all anxiously waiting for your report.

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

"billydee" wrote in message
om...
"jk" wrote in message
.net...
"Ernie Sty" wrote in message
...
I have been doing low-carb for a while, but I haven't been watching my
calories.

I had been on a very low-fat diet, limited to 2000 calories, and I
lost a
LOT of weight, but the cravings became too much and I started binging
on
lots of junk food and not counting calories.

I've switched to low-carb because LC helps keep away the cravings, but
so
far I have only stopped gaining weight (which is a victory in itself)
but
have not lost any. I may be eating too much. I try to stick to three
meals
per day with no snacks, but I seem to be eating a lot of high-fat
foods.
I
know fats are necessary, but is it possible to eat so much fat that
you
won't lose weight even keeping the carbs under, say, 20 grams per day?

Or maybe I am just not being patient enough. I think I will wait a
couple
more months (I am 298 now) and see how it goes.



This is an interesting issue. First of all if your fear is eating too
much
fat, that's not the problem. You can eat 5000 calories of fat a day, and
I
guarantee you it will run right through your body and you'll lose
weight.
The problem is if you eat lots of other things with your fat. For me I
can
eat a 3 lb fatty steak and still not gain an ounce. Once I add veggies
and
about 40-50 carbs a day, then there's a big difference. I never found a
problem though, because doing LC has slowly reduced my desire for the
huge
amounts of food I used to eat. When I sit down to eat I don't think of
portion control at all anymore. When you get to the maintenance stage of
LC,
you have other sets of issues to deal with, so I wouldn't worry about it
now. 6 years and 50 lbs Atkins guy

bull****. if you eat 5000 calories of fat you will get fat.


Oh really? Why not give it a try. Start today by eating ONLY 5000
calories of butter, or lard, or heavy cream, and see if you gain or lose
weight. Please report back, we're all anxiously waiting for your report.

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories