Dieting is hard!

"jmk" wrote in message
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On 8/19/2004 6:48 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to
their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast
or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds
its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!


Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

That's not what she said. She said, "the body wants to maintain fat." In
addition, there are water weight issues which put different psychological
stresses on women than men.


It's not just psychological but physical depending on the amount of water
retention and where it's located.
Try going out and doing your normal exercise routine carrying a 5-10 lb
dumbbell *and* barely being able to stand up straight if there are cramps
involved. Women normally just do it because we're used to it but men do
take that for granted.

Jenn

"jmk" wrote in message
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On 8/19/2004 6:48 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:

JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:


Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to
their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as fast
or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that adds
its
own difficulties to the mix.


*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!


Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

That's not what she said. She said, "the body wants to maintain fat." In
addition, there are water weight issues which put different psychological
stresses on women than men.


It's not just psychological but physical depending on the amount of water
retention and where it's located.
Try going out and doing your normal exercise routine carrying a 5-10 lb
dumbbell *and* barely being able to stand up straight if there are cramps
involved. Women normally just do it because we're used to it but men do
take that for granted.

Jenn

"Ignoramus22762" wrote in message
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I am not sure if it is actually true. Women have lower basal metabolic
rate, but do they really have harder time losing weight (as a
percentage of their weight)?

According to my nutritionist who has a Ph.D. from Tufts University school of
nutrition and is also a research scientist, it is true. He said I have many things
working against me right now that want me to regain the weight -- being female and
over 40 and having been overweight all my life, and some other hormone that I forget.
He explains it all scientifically but I don't retain a lot of the actual
information -- just the concept that I need to be extra vigilant. He also said that
once I keep in goal weight range for a year, my body will stop fighting so much.

I would like to see some proof, rather
than quotes from fitness websites. Maybe some controlled studies that
say that a certain calorie deficit produces more weight loss in men
than women, or something of that sort.

I'm sure you can find them if you try. I couldn't care less about studies myself.

Mary

"Ignoramus22762" wrote in message
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I am not sure if it is actually true. Women have lower basal metabolic
rate, but do they really have harder time losing weight (as a
percentage of their weight)?

According to my nutritionist who has a Ph.D. from Tufts University school of
nutrition and is also a research scientist, it is true. He said I have many things
working against me right now that want me to regain the weight -- being female and
over 40 and having been overweight all my life, and some other hormone that I forget.
He explains it all scientifically but I don't retain a lot of the actual
information -- just the concept that I need to be extra vigilant. He also said that
once I keep in goal weight range for a year, my body will stop fighting so much.

I would like to see some proof, rather
than quotes from fitness websites. Maybe some controlled studies that
say that a certain calorie deficit produces more weight loss in men
than women, or something of that sort.

I'm sure you can find them if you try. I couldn't care less about studies myself.

Mary

Try drinking plenty of water. Sometimes thrist and hunger is hard to
distinguish. I have a friend who regularly drinks 3 gallons of water everyday
and is able to survive with just 800-1000 calories longterm.

Try drinking plenty of water. Sometimes thrist and hunger is hard to
distinguish. I have a friend who regularly drinks 3 gallons of water everyday
and is able to survive with just 800-1000 calories longterm.

"JMA" wrote in message
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"Ignoramus29728" wrote in message
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In article , Ignoramus29728 wrote:
In article , Annabel Smyth wrote:
JMA wrote in alt.support.diet on Wed, 18 Aug 2004:

Plus, women have hormone issues - the body wants to maintain fat more
in
order to bear children. Plus some women gain weight every month due to
their
cycle and even though it's water it doesn't necessarily come off as
fast
or
easy as it comes on. Then there's menopause as you know Chris that
adds
its
own difficulties to the mix.

*Tell* me about it..... sigh..... all the same, oh, the bliss of being
done with "all that"!

Hm, if one's weight goes up due to water retention, and then down,
every month, does it make it harder to lose weight over the period of
several months?

i

Last I heard, men don't deal with this when trying to lose weight, but
of
course it *has* to be just as easy for women to lose weight and those
who
can't do it as quickly and easily must be doing something wrong.

Naturally, especially where the dictatorial men on this group are
concerned....

I also find it amusing that a woman who lost, according to her, 155
lbs, or more than half of her body weight, in less than a year on a
crash diet, is trying to be sarcastic here in regards to a question
asking for evidence to support a claim that it is harder for women to
lose weight than it is for men.

i

Gee, even you know that anyone can lose a large amount of weight when you
only consume 800 cal/day, but I guess you forgot that - how convenient.

The men in my HMR class actually lost faster than the women in the same
period of time and we were all consuming a similar number of calories.
Men
have a higher BMR because by nature they generally have more muscle mass.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a study to figure out that it would
simply lead to faster weight loss, it's a mathematical reality.

I'd still love to see you wake up to 10 lbs of hormonally induced water
weight overnight. That would definitely stop you from being so amused.

Jenn

Now THAT was amusing!!!

Martha

On 8/19/2004 7:22 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:

I also find it amusing that a woman who lost, according to her, 155
lbs, or more than half of her body weight, in less than a year on a
crash diet, is trying to be sarcastic here in regards to a question
asking for evidence to support a claim that it is harder for women to
lose weight than it is for men.

i

Ig, out of curiousity, why do you feel the need to include things like
"according to her" in this reply? How quickly did you lose your weight?
Could that be classified as a "crash diet?"

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jmk in NC

On 8/24/2004 1:04 PM, Ignoramus13955 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:

On 8/19/2004 7:22 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:


I also find it amusing that a woman who lost, according to her, 155
lbs, or more than half of her body weight, in less than a year on a
crash diet, is trying to be sarcastic here in regards to a question
asking for evidence to support a claim that it is harder for women to
lose weight than it is for men.


Again, Ig, out of curiousity, why do you feel the need to include things
like "according to her" in your reply?

ording to her" in your reply?

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jmk in NC

On 8/24/2004 1:04 PM, Ignoramus13955 wrote:
In article , jmk wrote:

On 8/19/2004 7:22 AM, Ignoramus29728 wrote:


I also find it amusing that a woman who lost, according to her, 155
lbs, or more than half of her body weight, in less than a year on a
crash diet, is trying to be sarcastic here in regards to a question
asking for evidence to support a claim that it is harder for women to
lose weight than it is for men.




Again, Ig, out of curiousity, why do you feel the need to include things
like "according to her" in this reply? Why did he avoid the first
question I asked?


How quickly did you lose your weight?


I reached normal weight in 100-102 days. That was a loss of about 45
lbs. I then proceeded to lose 5 more pounds over the course of many
more months.

What does that come to? 3.15 pounds per week? Isn't that a bit
excessive? Why would 3.15 pounds per week on your plan be better than
3.8 pounds per week on anohterh plan?




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jmk in NC