A "bread" recipe

"Tori M" wrote in message
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He just does not understand that some people CAN eat lower carbed things
like low carb bread. Just can not wrap his head arround it. I know
plenty
of people that eat bread and are not fat.. On the other hand they dont
sit
down and eat 3 sandwhiches in a sitting.

For myself, I can eat this. A piece or 2 every so often. Others may not be
able to - and I would expect those to simply bypass the recipe. Even though
I've used usenet for a decade, it never fails to amaze me that so many
adults haven't grasped the simple facts that everybody's opinions, thoughts,
experiences, and lives aren't the same as theirs. That's a very basic fact
of life.

I'll probably continue to post a recipe every so often that I've found
helpful, in the event that someone else may, also. Take 'em or leave 'em,
makes no difference to me. But don't expect me to live by your rules, I'm
doing just fine using my own and when I need help or advice, I'll ask - and
then I'll take it or leave it .
--
Sherry
364/318/195
low carb since 4/3/05
http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

"Tori M" wrote in message
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Oh I understand.. Just like 1 day every month I have 1 slice of whole
wheat
toast when I eat out for breakfast. Yes it is not low carb but I dont eat
toast at home because I would overeat it.. there I only have 1 slice.. can
not over eat it if you only have 1.

Yup...I make things for my husband's lunch that I wouldn't eat like he does;
this bread I make mostly for him, he walks about 11 miles at work every
night, pushing heavy equipment, and eats a lot more than I do. He likes
having 2 sandwiches and spreading out his lunch over his breaks during the
night to keep his energy levels constant. He of course gets the majority of
the "bread", I eat some because I like it and because all that fiber helps
me in, er, other ways .. I don't count his carbs, but he gets the same
lower carb foods, just more of them, and he's dropping weight like crazy.
Weight loss isn't something he was all that interested in, but he started
eating my same foods to support me in my own efforts and it is also paying
off for him . I'm eating right, feeling better than I have in years, am
having so many benefits that I didn't think I'd ever have (sleeping well,
skin cleared up for the first time since I was 11, tons of energy, almost no
reflux at all, etc.) that I know I'm healthier because of the way I eat,
including my high fiber "bread" recipes. Others don't have to like it, or
even agree with it - or with your slice of wheat toast once a month .
--
Sherry
364/318/195
low carb since 4/3/05
http://lowcarb.owly.net - NEW PICS 6/30 - NEW RECIPES 7/4

In article ,
"JC Der Koenig" wrote:

Relatively speaking, bread is how relatively many people got relatively fat
in the first place.


Unfortunately, I have to concur. :-(
I know it was one of _my_ biggest downfalls.

Bread and sodas......

sigh

Fortunately, I no longer miss bread.
I'm sensitive to wheat products anyway.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article .com,
wrote:

Sure. But low carb bread, in moderate amounts?



There is no such thing as moderation when it comes to carb addiction...
Bread is one of the fastest ways to set it off too.
Bread and/or cookies.

It's really best to avoid bread IMHO. You CAN learn to live without it.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article .com,
wrote:

JC Der Koenig wrote:
So.

Why do you ask the question and then argue about the response as if you had
some insight?

People who mindlessly swallow the answers from those who cloak
themselves in authority are mindless sheeple, who never have hope of
insight. Hence, I argue.


One more time, in case you didn't get it, bread is not low carb

I agree. But there *is* such a thing as low-carb bread, isn't there?
At least compared to standard bread.

Less carbs than normal bread = "low carb bread".

While that may be true, Low carb bread is still not truly a low carb
food...

IMHO anything with 10 grams of carbs PER SERVING where the carb grams
outstrip the protien and fat grams is NOT a low carb food.

Especially when you are trying to limit to 20 grams per day max. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

In article ,
"Tori M" wrote:

He just does not understand that some people CAN eat lower carbed things
like low carb bread. Just can not wrap his head arround it. I know plenty
of people that eat bread and are not fat.. On the other hand they dont sit
down and eat 3 sandwhiches in a sitting.

Tori

Thye also probably do not suffer from Insulin resistance like the vast
majority of morbidly obese people do. ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack Nicholson

Quoting :
Less carbs than normal bread = "low carb bread".

Some people actually -can- get away with substitutions that come close
to their old high-carb favorites and still be successful, but they are
generally in the minority and it's frequently those that didn't have
much fat to lose in the first place.

In my observations (based on following a controlled carb plan for
several years), most people are much more successful long-term if they
avoid substitutes (especially ones containing flour, sugar, or gluten,
duh) except as rare treats, condiments, or as something to carefully
experiment with here and there when already in maintenance.

In addition, there are also the folks that -claim- to get away with a
fair amount of substitutions in their LC plans. Yet they are
generally the same ones that, month after month, year after year,
still haven't lost all of their fat or have even re-gained some or all
of it. I see them all the time on various low-carb lists and forums,
here on the newsgroup, and in meatspace.

As is typical of human nature, the tendency of the low carb dieter is
to rationalize that they will somehow be special and different. This
belief will generally be reinforced at first by the short-term
observations made -- especially for the obese, weight will come off in
the beginning even with a fair amount of slack in the plan... later
on, it's a generally a different story altogether.

Suze wrote:
Quoting :

Less carbs than normal bread = "low carb bread".


Some people actually -can- get away with substitutions that come close
to their old high-carb favorites and still be successful, but they are
generally in the minority and it's frequently those that didn't have
much fat to lose in the first place.

In my observations (based on following a controlled carb plan for
several years), most people are much more successful long-term if they
avoid substitutes (especially ones containing flour, sugar, or gluten,
duh) except as rare treats, condiments, or as something to carefully
experiment with here and there when already in maintenance.

In addition, there are also the folks that -claim- to get away with a
fair amount of substitutions in their LC plans. Yet they are
generally the same ones that, month after month, year after year,
still haven't lost all of their fat or have even re-gained some or all
of it. I see them all the time on various low-carb lists and forums,
here on the newsgroup, and in meatspace.

As is typical of human nature, the tendency of the low carb dieter is
to rationalize that they will somehow be special and different. This
belief will generally be reinforced at first by the short-term
observations made -- especially for the obese, weight will come off in
the beginning even with a fair amount of slack in the plan... later
on, it's a generally a different story altogether.


Hallelujah, amen, etc. etc.

Marsha/Ohio

Sherry---I appreciate your LC bread recipe. I know that for some of us,
having a wide variety of LC subs is the reason for success, not THE
reason for failure.

KEEP posting your new discoveries!
If the LC "Purists" cant dig it, screw em AND the lop-eared mule they
rode in on..
Nobody's hoilding a gun to their heads MAKING them eat a LC sub.

LassChance

"Hey - if someone wants it, fine. If not, fine. It's not THAT big a
deal...sheesh...
You're completely missing the point.
Marsha/Ohio
Oh, that's ok then...forget I said anything ."

Suze wrote:
Quoting :
Less carbs than normal bread = "low carb bread".

Some people actually -can- get away with substitutions that come close
to their old high-carb favorites and still be successful, but they are
generally in the minority and it's frequently those that didn't have
much fat to lose in the first place.

In my observations (based on following a controlled carb plan for
several years), most people are much more successful long-term if they
avoid substitutes (especially ones containing flour, sugar, or gluten,
duh) except as rare treats, condiments, or as something to carefully
experiment with here and there when already in maintenance.

In addition, there are also the folks that -claim- to get away with a
fair amount of substitutions in their LC plans. Yet they are
generally the same ones that, month after month, year after year,
still haven't lost all of their fat or have even re-gained some or all
of it. I see them all the time on various low-carb lists and forums,
here on the newsgroup, and in meatspace.

As is typical of human nature, the tendency of the low carb dieter is
to rationalize that they will somehow be special and different. This
belief will generally be reinforced at first by the short-term
observations made -- especially for the obese, weight will come off in
the beginning even with a fair amount of slack in the plan... later
on, it's a generally a different story altogether.

All right, now thats an answer I can sink my teeth into.