EXtreme Problem Need some advise

I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed 40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

Suggestions please

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Chris Taylor Jr wrote:

I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed 40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

The scale is broken. It isn't possible that your weight
never fluctuates, especially a guy your size.

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

If it's not just too much food and not enough exercise, and
if the scale is not broken, then I would ask my doctor for
his thoughts.

martin

Responces below

The numbers don't add up... if you did nothing but sleep all day, you
would have a BMR of about 3000. Light activity pushes you to 4000.
Even at 2000 calories a day, you should be losing 2 - 4 pounds per week
even forgetting about the carbohydrates.

The only things I have not weighed are the 0 carb items (example I do not
weigh the chicken or fish I have etc.. I will look into getting a scale to
measure this stuff.

What is BMR ??


This suggests you are mistaken either about the counts of the food you
are eating or about your actual weight or both. $1200 for food in three
months is also not consistent with the numbers you are reporting.

I spend on average $100 a week on food (Meat and Fish is VERY VERY Expensive
where I live) Example. Chicken is $5 a pound Swordfish is $7 a pound (most
fish here is $5-$7 a pound) about the only thing cheap are the green beans
(50 cents a can) and the Eggs ($2 a dozen)


A couple of suggestions:

- Keep a log of everything you eat and the counts for a while. Without
this, it is easy to "forget" things you ate when making your daily
estimate. It's the old "the broken ones don't count" syndrome. Fitday
is kind of anal-retentive, but it wouldn't kill you to use it for a
couple of weeks.

I have been looking things up in fitday. found it very useful especially for
"can I eat this" kind of questions. it is anal but persistance pays off :-)
I also have a palm pda that I am using a lot lately. I will try to start
keeping a log of everything I stick in my mouth. it is baffling me as well
since I assumed if you ate less calories than you burned it HAD to come from
your stores (where else would it come from ??)


Get some Ketostix. If you are not turning them purple at 20 gm for
three months, you have a silicon metabolism or your gram count is off.

I guess I will have to grab some of these. When I did this diet for a short
time a year ago I lost 35 pounds in 2 months (was 399 !!) but it stopped
working so I stopped doing it since it cost so much money. I never did gain
any of it back (good!) but can not seem to lose anymore.


Calibrate your scale and/or compare it with a balance beam type scale.
Find a store that sells them and try one there if you don't want to pay
for a visit to a doctor's office.

Actually oddly enough the only place that HAS a scale that can weigh me
(even my doctors does not go that high) is the local veterinariam. it reads
and it showing progress for my sister just fine (she has lost 23 pounds so
far) I also thought it odd that I always weigh the same. I figured their
should be at the minimum slight fluctuations of a few pounds etc.. up and
down. I certaintly PREY I am not heavier than it can weigh since that would
mean I am heavier than 365 :-(


Measure your waist and track it.

I have not done this I will start.

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message

What is BMR ??

BMR is Basal Metabolic Rate. It's the number of calories your body needs to
keep itself healthy. You shouldn't eat below your BMR on a consistant basis
or you risk slowing your metabolism down and burning muscle to compensate
for the lack of energy to maintain your bodies functions.

I spend on average $100 a week on food (Meat and Fish is VERY VERY
Expensive where I live) Example. Chicken is $5 a pound Swordfish is
$7 a pound (most fish here is $5-$7 a pound) about the only thing
cheap are the green beans (50 cents a can) and the Eggs ($2 a dozen)

If you're eating too many calories you won't lose no matter how few carbs
you eat. If you eat too few calories you'll slow your metabolism down and
you'll stall. Another thing to consider is protein. It converts to
carbohydrate at a rate of about 58% so if you're eating too much protein you
could be going over your carb limit without realizing it.
--
Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."

Try eating less. Nobody ever walked away from a Japanese prisoner of war
camp still fat. So quit lying.

--
JC

Lyle's New Ultimate Diet

"1. eat less you fat ****
2. exercise more you fat ****"

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
...
I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed
40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with
it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free
jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll
spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

Suggestions please

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Chris Taylor Jr wrote:

I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed 40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

Suggestions please

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Is your scale working? Also what is the highest weight it
measures? Otherwise, this makes no sense to me.
--
Jean B.

"M.W.Smith" wrote in message ...
Chris Taylor Jr wrote:

I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed 40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

The scale is broken. It isn't possible that your weight
never fluctuates, especially a guy your size.

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

If it's not just too much food and not enough exercise, and
if the scale is not broken, then I would ask my doctor for
his thoughts.

martin


I agree with Martin, something has to be wrong with the scale.
Everyone fluctuates at least a couple of pounds. Have you noticed any
change in waist size?

Have you eliminated all aspartame besides the sugar free jello?
Atkins claimed aspartame could stall some people, though it hasn't
been a problem for most of us. Are you on any medication? Using any
of the LC bars or candy?

I suggest you post a couple days of typical food and beverage intake,
maybe we can then spot something.

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 05:43:07 -0500, "Chris Taylor Jr"
wrote:

Actually oddly enough the only place that HAS a scale that can weigh me
(even my doctors does not go that high) is the local veterinariam. it reads
and it showing progress for my sister just fine (she has lost 23 pounds so
far) I also thought it odd that I always weigh the same. I figured their
should be at the minimum slight fluctuations of a few pounds etc.. up and
down. I certaintly PREY I am not heavier than it can weigh since that would
mean I am heavier than 365 :-(

Try stepping on the scale, stepping off, picking up something of known
weight (like a 5-pound dumbbell), and stepping back on. If the before and
after weights are the same, you'll know you're maxing out the scale.

Em

Chris,

If you really have been eating what you say you have--and I have no reason
to doubt that, it sounds like you really need to see a doctor who is willing
to do some research to find out what is going on.

Despite the enthusiasm of some folks here, there are metabolic conditions
where it becomes impossible to lose weight even with a low calorie low carb
diet. For example, Dr. Bernstein reports that women with PCOS can low carb
all they want and cut calories but they often cannot lose weight without
adding a drug, Metformin, that reduces insulin resistance.

Potential problems might be anything from a problem with your pituitary,
thyroid, or extreme insulin resistance.

When you go to the doctor, bring your food logs so he/she can see what
you've been eating. If the doctor just tells you to change your diet, find a
new doctor, perhaps an endocrinologist.

-- Jenny

Cut the carbs to respond to my new email address!

Weight: 168.5/137
Diabetes Type II diagnosed 8/1998 -
HBa1c 5.2 10/03
Low Carb 9/1998 - 8/2001 and 11/10/02 - Now

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean
How to calculate your need for protein * How much people really lose each
month * Water Weight Gain & Loss * The "Two Gram Cure" for Hunger Cravings
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"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
...
I have been doing Low Carb (Under 20g a day) for the last 3 months.

in that time I have not gained or lost ONE SINGLE POUND

at first 5-6 weeks ago I thought it was the nitrates. I have since
completely eliminated all nitrates. I also consume a minimum of 100oz of
water a day.

What in the world could I be doing wrong ? I have been eating roughly
1600-2000 calories a day and most days in the last 2 weeks I have managed
40
minute bike rides daily. (rain lately has damped that)

what in the world is going on ? I have been 365 for over a year now. each
time I weigh myself I am still EXACTLY 365 never 366 never 364 always the
same 365 (shouldn't my weight fluctuate a little ?)

I do not mind eating this way. (cravings and such are not an issue for me)
temptations do not exist IE I have no will power issues in sticking with
it.
but eating this way IS very very expensive ($1200 in food in the last 3
months is a LOT of money to have lost not one pound)

Breakfast is pretty much just eggs. with sometimes pepperoni or sausage
tossed in.

Dinner is usually chicken with veggies (green beens, cauliflower, or
brocoli) I usually come in under 20g carbs and that is almost 100% veggies
as atkins advices.

What can I possibly be doing wrong ? I used to eat a lot of sugar free
jello
but in the last 5 weeks or so since I dropped the nitrates (pork roll
spamm
etc..) I also dropped almost all the jello (a few servings total in that
time)

I also nibble on cheese and pickles here and their and in the last week I
found Sunflower Kernals (5g carb for the whole bag but that one bag has
lasted 8 days) I just use it as a crunchy when driving.

What in the world is going on ?????

Suggestions please

Chris Taylor
http://www.nerys.com/

Jeri wrote:
:: "Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in message
::
::: What is BMR ??
::
:: BMR is Basal Metabolic Rate. It's the number of calories your body
:: needs to keep itself healthy. You shouldn't eat below your BMR on a
:: consistant basis or you risk slowing your metabolism down and
:: burning muscle to compensate for the lack of energy to maintain your
:: bodies functions.
::
::: I spend on average $100 a week on food (Meat and Fish is VERY VERY
::: Expensive where I live) Example. Chicken is $5 a pound Swordfish is
::: $7 a pound (most fish here is $5-$7 a pound) about the only thing
::: cheap are the green beans (50 cents a can) and the Eggs ($2 a dozen)
::
:: If you're eating too many calories you won't lose no matter how few
:: carbs you eat. If you eat too few calories you'll slow your
:: metabolism down and you'll stall. Another thing to consider is
:: protein. It converts to carbohydrate at a rate of about 58% so if
:: you're eating too much protein you could be going over your carb
:: limit without realizing it. --

That might be true, however, if he is really eating less than 2000 kcals, I
don't think it will matter.

Something is very wrong wth Chris's the numbers, for sure. I think he must
be eating way more than he thinks, and the scale is pegging at max.
However, I would have also thought that he'd would have noticed some change
in the way his clothes fit. So, either he's eating too much or has some
metabolic issues.