Carbs, fat, and commercials

Here's a comment on todays marketing of foods. We all know that LF was
all the rage until recently, when 35 years after Dr. Atkins book came out,
LC is now finally mainstream. Restaurant and fast food companies have
hitched their wagons to somebody or other to try and keep up with diet
conscious Americans.
Ruby Tuesdays has a menu filled with "Atkins approved" items, and breaks
down their dishes by content right on the menu. Very up to date.
Appleby's is now officially attached to Weight Watchers on the menu.
Subway touts that their sandwich has less fat grams than a Big Mac. How
far behind are they? Who counts fat grams anymore? They seem so out of
touch, except that their sandwich is built around fresh bread, so what else
can they do?
Pepsi comes out with new soda that has 1/2 the carbs, by replacing 1/2
the sugar with Splenda. Why would you want to consume ANY sugar at all in
your soft drink, if you were aware of sugar being bad for you.
It makes you wonder who is spending the 100's of millions of dollars on
these campaigns?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

jk wrote:
Here's a comment on todays marketing of foods. We all know that LF
was all the rage until recently, when 35 years after Dr. Atkins book
came out, LC is now finally mainstream. Restaurant and fast food
companies have hitched their wagons to somebody or other to try and
keep up with diet conscious Americans.

When I was a kid many diners and other casual dining restaurants had "diet
plates" or "waist watchers" that featured things like a plain hamburger
patty with a side of cottage cheese. Trends in dieting, like in just about
everything else, are cyclical. What is new is the *branding* of the diet
plate - at many chain restaurants (though by no means at all of them) the
low-carb items aren't just that; they are, as you observe, identified with a
brand name diet.

Ruby Tuesdays has a menu filled with "Atkins approved" items, and
breaks down their dishes by content right on the menu. Very up to
date. Appleby's is now officially attached to Weight Watchers on
the menu. Subway touts that their sandwich has less fat grams than
a Big Mac. How far behind are they? Who counts fat grams anymore?

Many, many, many people do. Just because you and many other people are
interested in low carb does not mean that low fat has died as a diet
approach. Weight Watchers still advocates low fat dieting. The extremely
popular South Beach diet may be viewed in some respects as an amalgam of low
carb and low fat approaches. Low fat is still going quite strong. Have a
look at eDiets, alt.support.diet, or just about any diet forum not
specifically dedicated to low carb and this would be abundantly apparent.

They seem so out of touch, except that their sandwich is built around
fresh bread, so what else can they do?

Except that Subway also features a branded "Atkins approved" menu. So your
condemnation of them as "behind the times" because of their focus on a low
fat approach misses the mark on this count as well. Subway is trying to be
all things to all dieters - and from what I see, rather succeeding at it.

Pepsi comes out with new soda that has 1/2 the carbs, by
replacing 1/2 the sugar with Splenda. Why would you want to consume
ANY sugar at all in your soft drink, if you were aware of sugar being
bad for you. It makes you wonder who is spending the 100's of
millions of dollars on these campaigns?

I am not sure what to make of the half carb cola, which, by the way, is also
marketed by Coca-Cola, so evidently it's not only Pepsi who thinks this is a
good idea. Perhaps they believe that people who want to moderate (but not
eliminate) their consumption of sugar will find appealing a product that
lets them do so without reducing the volume of cola they consume. Lots of
people despise the taste of diet sodas and are reluctant to give up their
sugary ones. I think it's a ridiculous product - so I won't be buying it -
but I hardly speak for the majority of mainstream Americans, and who knows,
maybe the product will be a success. On the other hand, if it is a flop, it
would not be the first time the cola industry has launched an unsuccessful
product to much hype and fanfare (remember New Coke?).

--
carla
http://geekofalltrades.typepad.com/geek

Hi,
JKSinrod wrote:
They seem so out of touch, except that their sandwich is built
around fresh bread, so what else can they do?

Carla wrote:
Except that Subway also features a branded "Atkins approved" menu.
So your condemnation of them as "behind the times" because of their
focus on
a low fat approach misses the mark on this count as well. Subway is
trying to be all things to all dieters - and from what I see, rather
succeeding
at it.

Subway's salads are now substantially better than before they began to
cater to Atkins. It's possible to get a salad with a bed of mixed
greens instead of just shredded iceberg lettuce meant for the subs.
That's one change I hope outlasts the low carb craze here in the
States. Food I don't have to pick apart and discard half of - W00T!
;-)

Take care,
Carmen

Hi,
JKSinrod wrote:
They seem so out of touch, except that their sandwich is built
around fresh bread, so what else can they do?

Carla wrote:
Except that Subway also features a branded "Atkins approved" menu.
So your condemnation of them as "behind the times" because of their
focus on
a low fat approach misses the mark on this count as well. Subway is
trying to be all things to all dieters - and from what I see, rather
succeeding
at it.

Subway's salads are now substantially better than before they began to
cater to Atkins. It's possible to get a salad with a bed of mixed
greens instead of just shredded iceberg lettuce meant for the subs.
That's one change I hope outlasts the low carb craze here in the
States. Food I don't have to pick apart and discard half of - W00T!
;-)

Take care,
Carmen

Hi,
JKSinrod wrote:
They seem so out of touch, except that their sandwich is built
around fresh bread, so what else can they do?

Carla wrote:
Except that Subway also features a branded "Atkins approved" menu.
So your condemnation of them as "behind the times" because of their
focus on
a low fat approach misses the mark on this count as well. Subway is
trying to be all things to all dieters - and from what I see, rather
succeeding
at it.

Subway's salads are now substantially better than before they began to
cater to Atkins. It's possible to get a salad with a bed of mixed
greens instead of just shredded iceberg lettuce meant for the subs.
That's one change I hope outlasts the low carb craze here in the
States. Food I don't have to pick apart and discard half of - W00T!
;-)

Take care,
Carmen

Because in the end, it still mostly adds up to calories.. no matter where
those calories come from, too many still make you overweight. Some people
have a primary problem with carbs.. so we cut those.. for some, it's fat, so
you cut fat.. for some, it's a matter of just eating way too much no matter
what form it is. There are various reasons people cut or count things in
their daily diet.. not always just to lose weight.

Teeb


"jk" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a comment on todays marketing of foods. We all know that LF was
all the rage until recently, when 35 years after Dr. Atkins book came out,
LC is now finally mainstream. Restaurant and fast food companies have
hitched their wagons to somebody or other to try and keep up with diet
conscious Americans.
Ruby Tuesdays has a menu filled with "Atkins approved" items, and
breaks
down their dishes by content right on the menu. Very up to date.
Appleby's is now officially attached to Weight Watchers on the menu.
Subway touts that their sandwich has less fat grams than a Big Mac. How
far behind are they? Who counts fat grams anymore? They seem so out of
touch, except that their sandwich is built around fresh bread, so what
else
can they do?
Pepsi comes out with new soda that has 1/2 the carbs, by replacing 1/2
the sugar with Splenda. Why would you want to consume ANY sugar at all in
your soft drink, if you were aware of sugar being bad for you.
It makes you wonder who is spending the 100's of millions of dollars
on
these campaigns?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

Because in the end, it still mostly adds up to calories.. no matter where
those calories come from, too many still make you overweight. Some people
have a primary problem with carbs.. so we cut those.. for some, it's fat, so
you cut fat.. for some, it's a matter of just eating way too much no matter
what form it is. There are various reasons people cut or count things in
their daily diet.. not always just to lose weight.

Teeb


"jk" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a comment on todays marketing of foods. We all know that LF was
all the rage until recently, when 35 years after Dr. Atkins book came out,
LC is now finally mainstream. Restaurant and fast food companies have
hitched their wagons to somebody or other to try and keep up with diet
conscious Americans.
Ruby Tuesdays has a menu filled with "Atkins approved" items, and
breaks
down their dishes by content right on the menu. Very up to date.
Appleby's is now officially attached to Weight Watchers on the menu.
Subway touts that their sandwich has less fat grams than a Big Mac. How
far behind are they? Who counts fat grams anymore? They seem so out of
touch, except that their sandwich is built around fresh bread, so what
else
can they do?
Pepsi comes out with new soda that has 1/2 the carbs, by replacing 1/2
the sugar with Splenda. Why would you want to consume ANY sugar at all in
your soft drink, if you were aware of sugar being bad for you.
It makes you wonder who is spending the 100's of millions of dollars
on
these campaigns?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

I'd like to meet the genius who came up with the Dunkin Donut's "low carb"
bagel and croissant. On their web site, they're called "lower carb" but in
my local store they are labeled "low carb" with no counts available.

The web site gives the count for the bagel as around 32 grams.

The web site gives the count for the croissant as 19 grams, and the first
ingredient listed, after water, is hydrogenated oil.

You do have to wonder about the people who eat these things assuming they're
low carb. . .

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 5 years. Below goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.7 .
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

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"jk" wrote in message
. ..
Here's a comment on todays marketing of foods. We all know that LF was
all the rage until recently, when 35 years after Dr. Atkins book came out,
LC is now finally mainstream. Restaurant and fast food companies have
hitched their wagons to somebody or other to try and keep up with diet
conscious Americans.
Ruby Tuesdays has a menu filled with "Atkins approved" items, and
breaks
down their dishes by content right on the menu. Very up to date.
Appleby's is now officially attached to Weight Watchers on the menu.
Subway touts that their sandwich has less fat grams than a Big Mac. How
far behind are they? Who counts fat grams anymore? They seem so out of
touch, except that their sandwich is built around fresh bread, so what
else
can they do?
Pepsi comes out with new soda that has 1/2 the carbs, by replacing 1/2
the sugar with Splenda. Why would you want to consume ANY sugar at all in
your soft drink, if you were aware of sugar being bad for you.
It makes you wonder who is spending the 100's of millions of dollars
on
these campaigns?

--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories

On the other hand, if it is a flop, it
would not be the first time the cola industry has launched an unsuccessful
product to much hype and fanfare (remember New Coke?).

New Coke was not a failure. It was an absolute success in all ways.
LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 5'7" 265/168/140
& hubby- 6' 310/188/180
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"LCer09" wrote in message
...
On the other hand, if it is a flop, it
would not be the first time the cola industry has launched an
unsuccessful
product to much hype and fanfare (remember New Coke?).

New Coke was not a failure. It was an absolute success in all ways.

WHAT.... are you saying that Carmen was wrong? Dang!

Atkins 50 lbs still off over 6 years!
--
JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
www.sinrodstudios.com
Coney Island Memories
www.sinrodstudios.com/coneymemories